well lads
yet another problem the brake control valve has sprung a leak
so major that all LHM fluid has leaked out
how hard is it to change or is it likely that there is another problem.
thanks
nick
Brake control valve
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Re: Brake control valve
Where's it leaked? Into the car, or onto the floor? If into the car, then probably just needs the rubber seal on the end replacing -Citronut says you can do it by releaseing the brake valve and pulling it back into the engine bay then rotating it carefully on the pipes. If onto the floor, then likely the return pipe has split on the valve - should just be able to cut it back and refit it.
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Re: Brake control valve
Try to search FCF with this word: Doseur
There are several threads concerning the Doseur valve (brake valve).
This is one of them with informative pics ---> Xantia doseur valve
But first try to find out the source of leak.
As RichardW said, is the leak "Into the car, or onto the floor?"
There are several threads concerning the Doseur valve (brake valve).
This is one of them with informative pics ---> Xantia doseur valve
But first try to find out the source of leak.
As RichardW said, is the leak "Into the car, or onto the floor?"
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Re: Brake control valve
its leaking out on to the ground from the back nearly of the unit its self
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Re: Brake control valve
have you checked the plastic return pipe from that doseur valve, mine got a split in it & fuild everywhere, it's an easy job to repair if it's just that
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Re: Brake control valve
sounds like the main return rubber pipe has split,
to fix this i usualy unvbolt the Doseur valve (brake unit fromt the bulk head, then gently turn it end to end till you can get at the rubber pipe were it conects to the underside of the Doseur valve,
now you can usualy cut a short bit off and reconect the pipe,
if its already been cut back i usualy cut a 3 or 4" inch length from the pipe and add a short length of metal/copper pipe to extend the original rubber pip
if the leak is pouring into the cab and front carpet you will require the parts below from citroen,
Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
5424455 CNTRL-UNIT RING 4.97 GBP 5.96 GBP 5.96 GBP
95640067 BRAKE PROTECTOR 8.24 GBP 9.89 GBP 9.89 GBP
regards malcolm
to fix this i usualy unvbolt the Doseur valve (brake unit fromt the bulk head, then gently turn it end to end till you can get at the rubber pipe were it conects to the underside of the Doseur valve,
now you can usualy cut a short bit off and reconect the pipe,
if its already been cut back i usualy cut a 3 or 4" inch length from the pipe and add a short length of metal/copper pipe to extend the original rubber pip
if the leak is pouring into the cab and front carpet you will require the parts below from citroen,
Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
5424455 CNTRL-UNIT RING 4.97 GBP 5.96 GBP 5.96 GBP
95640067 BRAKE PROTECTOR 8.24 GBP 9.89 GBP 9.89 GBP
regards malcolm
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Re: Brake control valve
I hesitate to argue with an expert. but when faced with a flood of LHM from the lower Doseur leak-off pipe but I managed to remove the broken-off end of the plastic pipe by cutting through it lengthways, twisting it off, and then scraping the metal pipe stub clean with a long narrow screwdriver. My friendly local factor produced a 90° hard plastic joiner, a straight joiner and 6" of fuel pipe all the same diameter as the leak off pipe (. It was then a simple ,matter of cutting back the leak-off pipe to an appropriate point.
As far as I could see, the problem is caused by the leak-off pipe being bent through a sharp 90° putting a permanent sideways twist on the the soft plastic pipe so that after a number of years the metal stub on the valve block makes a split in it.
The resulting leak is huge because a number of leak-off pipes join together at a point below the top of the reservoir - when any of these fail, the combined leak-off from all them pours out of the break. Ideally, either each leak-off pipe would have its own separate entry to the reservoir or have a non-return valve close to where the pipes all join. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful gift!
As far as I could see, the problem is caused by the leak-off pipe being bent through a sharp 90° putting a permanent sideways twist on the the soft plastic pipe so that after a number of years the metal stub on the valve block makes a split in it.
The resulting leak is huge because a number of leak-off pipes join together at a point below the top of the reservoir - when any of these fail, the combined leak-off from all them pours out of the break. Ideally, either each leak-off pipe would have its own separate entry to the reservoir or have a non-return valve close to where the pipes all join. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful gift!
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Re: Brake control valve
sorted it today a better look with bore scope it turned out to be the top pipe fitted a new piece of pipe and pushed the plastic pipe in it. awkward to get clip off wasn't able to get a new clip on but have been driving a bit and seems to be holding
thanks lad
nick
thanks lad
nick