Quick Xantia questions.

[Stepto1]

Just a few questions that it's time to ask.

Are the tow bars the same on mk 1 and 2 Xantias?

Are the doors interchangeable for mk 1 and 2's?

At motorway speeds (80+), what sort of mpg could I expect from a 2.0 turbo or V6?

Kind regards,
Steve.

[jgra1]

Steve..

V6 I would hope for 40.. Once, I did seem to get 44 out of my cooupe.. but I think it's a little more slippery shaped and I may have been more at 70... ( I was following Jim )

Saying that, the xant is lighter so..

I would be suprised if the doors and even the bar are not interchangeable..

John

[Northern_Mike]

At motorway speeds (80+), what sort of mpg could I expect from a 2.0 turbo or V6?

I've never had a V6, but my Activa struggled to better 30mpg under any circumstances. I once got 36mpg out of it cruising at 70mph for 200 miles. Economical they are not. Jim reckons a V6 is more economical.

Driven hard, an Activa will get as low as 14mpg. You don't need to ask how I know this..

[Stepto1]

I'm impressed with 14mpg! I once AVERAGED 9mpg out of a 3.9 Range Rover and found that 10 quid would provide 20 miles in a Grand Cherokee V8 Hemi!

I drive about 500 miles a weekend but I don't like oil burners. I think they are less reliable and not as economical as people think. I want an Activa but also tempted by a V6.

Any thoughts?

Steve.

[davoxx]

I'm impressed with 14mpg! I once AVERAGED 9mpg out of a 3.9 Range Rover and found that 10 quid would provide 20 miles in a Grand Cherokee V8 Hemi!

I drive about 500 miles a weekend but I don't like oil burners. I think they are less reliable and not as economical as people think. I want an Activa but also tempted by a V6.

Any thoughts?

Steve.

just one thought ... get an activa. of if you can a v6 activa ... though for that kinda cash, i'd upgrade the activa engine

[Northern_Mike]

I'm impressed with 14mpg! I once AVERAGED 9mpg out of a 3.9 Range Rover and found that 10 quid would provide 20 miles in a Grand Cherokee V8 Hemi!

I drive about 500 miles a weekend but I don't like oil burners. I think they are less reliable and not as economical as people think. I want an Activa but also tempted by a V6.

Any thoughts?

Steve.

Thoughts? Over the same run, at similar speeds, my HDi 110 Xantia did 35mpg...

[Stepto1]

My old 1.8 16V can get to Plymouth from Nottingham for about £40 sitting at about 80mph.

I recently borrowed my girlfriend's Seat Leon FR 2.0 diesel to do the same trip. It used MORE fuel at the same speed!

Now i may have had my foot down when I had the chance but I'm still unconvinced by modern diesels.

Steve.

[addo]

If it's genuine motorway cruising, then the way petrol Xantias seem to be geared your efficiency is tapering off above 70MPH. Driving on the throttle (not cruise) with a V6 would be the most economical as most people instinctively let the car "sag" a little in cruising speed on a climb rather than hold it like cruise control does. Also, windows up and A/C on - this makes a positive difference to mileage.

[Stepto1]

A/C on ? Rather then the drag caused by windows down?

I always thought that having C/C on would be the most efficient way of driving?

[xantia_v6]

I often drive my V6 for several hundred miles in France at 85MPH (indicated 90) usually on cruise. It gets 29-31 MPG. I am sure that it would be a bit more economical at 70. I don't believe it is capable of much more than 35MPG. On balance, I think that CC improves economy. Except in very hot weather, I don't think that A/C increases fuel consumption.

[addo]

Cruise is thirstier - it maintains speed with no regard for manifold vacuum. It's easy to observe in a car with trip confuser fitted.

I use it a lot; the benefit for me is that it doesn't slow on hills, where a person driving on the throttle will. On a four or five hour commute this can make 20 minutes' difference.

[mirafioriman]

I think a lot of how much fuel economy you get is down to driving style. I certainly find that cruising along at 65-70 is a lot more economical than going faster.

That's why I generally drive quite slowly

I have only owned a 1.9d BX and Xantia but I have always banked on an average of 50 MPG on these two.

After owning several big, big engined cars I know one thing. Big engines are never economical

[Timmo]

Brother got 42mpg out of his 406 v6 saloon on a run on cruise at 70, best I've ever got from the bx16v was 32mpg worst 18. I'd have thought a 2l 16v would be much the same as the box.
Some interesting threads popped up on a bike forum about real world diesel mpg's, none of them came close to quoted and most were in the 40-50 bracket, a lot were mid to high 30's with average driving, bit of motorway, bit of spirited driving, bit of town etc.
On a run in the veg burner we get 40 MPG with the 2 kids and a boot full of gear, the wife's lil 1,2 fiat bravo manages 42 MPG with much the same!

[Northern_Mike]

Brother got 42mpg out of his 406 v6 saloon on a run on cruise at 70, best I've ever got from the bx16v was 32mpg worst 18. I'd have thought a 2l 16v would be much the same as the box.
Some interesting threads popped up on a bike forum about real world diesel mpg's, none of them came close to quoted and most were in the 40-50 bracket, a lot were mid to high 30's with average driving, bit of motorway, bit of spirited driving, bit of town etc.
On a run in the veg burner we get 40 MPG with the 2 kids and a boot full of gear, the wife's lil 1,2 fiat bravo manages 42 MPG with much the same!

I regularly got between 55 and 60mpg out of the the HDi (Jim's Rattiva II) when I had it. Highest I ever got off a tank was 63mpg calculated brim-emtpy. It is well worn in though.

The Xantia 1.9TDs I had averaged out at 44mpg over around 60k miles, and the ZXTD the same. I ran my XM 2.1TD on veg and it averaged 43mpg over 20k miles in a year, which was mostly 80-90mph cruising up and down various private test tracks between Lancashire and Bucks

[Gregg1100]

Towbar for Xantia 1 will fit series 2- definately. I have done that. Only estate is different to hatchback. Estate series 1 will probably be the same as estate series 2.