Help needed please, I'm desperate!

mongoose100 · Post by **mongoose100** » 03 Aug 2011, 08:19

The rubber bush connecting the P/S ram to the steering rack has perished, Citroen apparently only sell the complete ram at $1250NZD + GST (15%). Needless to say, the heart just about stopped when that was said to me!

Questions I have are, can the end of the ram (as in the bush part) be unscrewed from the rest of the assembly or is it a fixed unit?

If this is the case, are the bushes/end fittings the same thru the Xantia range?

Said vehicle is a 2000 Xantia V6

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » 03 Aug 2011, 08:35

I cant for the life of me remember what its called now, but a good mate had his done on his bx16v ifits the same part i think it is??

Edit, a quick look throughtl the garage on 16v.co.uk and he's listed it asa steering coupling?? £25 but was a fewyears back,

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:08

if you mean the bush at the moveing end of thr ram UK N/S=left side end when sitting in a RHD car,

the bush is avalible on its own as i have recently bought and fitted one to a BX, and it crossed over to a XANT part,

although fitting this bush did not fix the fault which was the end of the ram was touching the N/S suspension arm as the steering was turned to the right,

i ended up placeing two shim washers between the rack mountting points and sub frame, which liftted the rack slightly,

if you send me the last 8 digits of your chassis/VIN No. i will check the price and part No. on service citroen for the correct one to fit your car,

regards malcolm

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:23

i just searched S/C and although it dose not come up under XANT's it does for BX,

there are two size's 20mm and 22mm,

it also shows the same bush at both ends of the ram,

here is a list of modles it can find the 22mm bush part No. 4059.07 for

Number of documents found by vehicle family:
10 document(s) found for BERLINGO (M59)
5 document(s) found for ZX
2 document(s) found for XSARA
6 document(s) found for XSARA II
1 document(s) found for AX
1 document(s) found for XM
1 document(s) found for BX
3 document(s) found for BERLINGO
12 document(s) found for BERLINGO (M59)

and here is price and part No.

Part Number Description Quantity Price excl. VAT Price incl. VAT Total incl. VAT Selection
0000405907 MOUNTING 6.37 GBP 7.64 GBP 7.64 GBP

regards malcolm

mongoose100 · Post by **mongoose100** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:28

Malcom, if you weren't over the other side of the world, I'd kiss ya!

Bet you're thankful of that tho, right???

Cheers heaps, will be phoning steelership tomorrow with that news!

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:31

ok hunny no worrys,

the part No. for the 20mm bush is 4059.06

regards malcolm

mongoose100 · Post by **mongoose100** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:31

Now onto the other harrowing question; Can it be fitted in place or does the front of the car need to be torn apart?

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:31

Ive been googling and cant find it but having no ideaof its technical name was semi fruitless anyways hehe, but a quiet pre swimming lessons for the oldest littlun morning in the Timmo household!

is it the round disc typet bush, 3-4" diameter about an inch thick?? From memory thats the part my mate rob had done??

Oooh, scratch that then, just saw your posts!

mongoose100 · Post by **mongoose100** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:32

citronut wrote:ok hunny no worrys,

the part No. for the 20mm bush is 4059.06

regards malcolm

*Mwah*

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:33

please re/read my first reply as i have added some info to it,

regards malcolm

mongoose100 · Post by **mongoose100** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:34

Timmo wrote:Ive been googling and cant find it but having no ideaof its technical name was semi fruitless anyways hehe, but a quiet pre swimming lessons for the oldest littlun morning in the Timmo household!
is it the round disc typet bush, 3-4" diameter about an inch thick?? From memory thats the part my mate rob had done??

Think we're talking bout the same thing... Left hand side of Steering Ram, at the end of the nice shiny rod (my boot has long gone)

mongoose100 · Post by **mongoose100** » 03 Aug 2011, 09:37

citronut wrote:although fitting this bush did not fix the fault which was the end of the ram was touching the N/S suspension arm as the steering was turned to the right,

i ended up placeing two shim washers between the rack mountting points and sub frame, which liftted the rack slightly,

My issue is the testing officer for the WOF (guess its like your MOT) doesn't like the clunk that the steering makes when swinging wheel back and forth... Why you'd do that on a road mystifies me tho

Looks like the rubber has just perished

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 03 Aug 2011, 13:21

if you look in/under through the pasangers side wheel arch and to tyhe rear of the wheel, you might see the ram end is rubbing the arm as it pass's when you lock the steering round,

i thought that bush had failed but on closer inspection the bush was fine,

this is why i raised the rack on shim washers very slightly, an1/8th of an inch was to much, even though it worked and passed the MOT,

Timmo is talking about the flexi coupling disc at the bottom of the steering columb,

this is not the same thing,

regards malcolm