Xantia Matrix connector

MikeT · Post by **MikeT** » 16 Apr 2011, 09:44

Good news and well done for coming up with the diagnosis and solution, Mike! You're experienced enough to do the other matrix yourself now, right?

Post by **CitroJim** » 16 Apr 2011, 16:53

KennyW wrote:Hi All,

When I glued it I think I used araldite. I have used this on many things in the past and it is remarkable how it copes

Kenny

The slow-setting stuff is excellent if used exactly as directed..

I've had excellent results with Plastic Padding Super Steel Epoxy. For these sort of jobs it has the added benefit of high heat resistance...

Post by **CitroJim** » 18 Sep 2011, 20:38

Chris570 and I found another problem today with pattern matrixes

Try as hard as we could, we just couldn't get the connector to sit deeply enough into the matrix socket for the clip to engage. It felt like there was something stopping it.

Looking at this old tread and the clip length problem, I carefully removed the clip from the connector but the connector still wouldn't mate correctly.

In the end we found the spigots on the connector were too long for the matrix socket and these were fouling at the base of the socket.

The cure was to cut around 3/8" off each spigot with a junior hacksaw and tidy it up with a file. The when sufficient had been removed, the connector was tested for clicking into place before fitting the O rings....

Firstly, too little was removed and it was necessary to revisit to shave a little more from the spigots. Finally it all came good but sadly there was a small weep from one of the pipes where the joint had become strained from the very difficult removal from the old matrix socket

A drop of good Araldite should fix that.

My first recommendation is that before fitting a new matrix do check that the connector fits it properly. It's a lot easier to do the connector mods then rather than afterward when the matrix is in place...

My second recommendation is to get a genuine Valeo one rather than a pattern....

My third recommendation is to run away very fast from any Xantia with a duff matrix

imperial21 · Post by **imperial21** » 18 Sep 2011, 20:44

When i did mine it was such a pain that i got to the last hurdle to find the problem ! If i did it again i would swap the new matrix kneck with the original one as you know that fits ok !

Post by **CitroJim** » 18 Sep 2011, 20:50

imperial21 wrote:When i did mine it was such a pain that i got to the last hurdle to find the problem ! If i did it again i would swap the new matrix kneck with the original one as you know that fits ok !

Yes, that's not a bad idea but be careful, the Valeo and the pattern one may just differ sufficiently in this area to be the cause of a new leak... It's a risky strategy in my opinion...

Chris570 · Post by **Chris570** » 18 Sep 2011, 22:01

CitroJim wrote:
imperial21 wrote:When i did mine it was such a pain that i got to the last hurdle to find the problem ! If i did it again i would swap the new matrix kneck with the original one as you know that fits ok !
Yes, that's not a bad idea but be careful, the Valeo and the pattern one may just differ sufficiently in this area to be the cause of a new leak... It's a risky strategy in my opinion...

especially as thats where mine was leaking from in the first place.

the activa can stay in the naughty corner for a good while yet and watch its younger sibling go out into the world day after day after its performance this weekend!!!

Post by **CitroJim** » 18 Sep 2011, 22:07

Chris570 wrote: the activa can stay in the naughty corner for a good while yet and watch its younger sibling go out into the world day after day after its performance this weekend!!!

Chris, I think you'd better let the good people of the FCF know about your Activa's little pantomime performance this weekend....

But yes the

emoticon does rather sum it up somewhat succinctly...

Chris570 · Post by **Chris570** » 18 Sep 2011, 22:08

CitroJim wrote:
Chris570 wrote: the activa can stay in the naughty corner for a good while yet and watch its younger sibling go out into the world day after day after its performance this weekend!!!
Chris, I think you'd better let the good people of the FCF know about your Activa's little pantomime performance this weekend....

But yes the emoticon does rather sum it up somewhat succinctly...

bloody thing.

(that is all for now until my blood has come down below boiling point)

DickieG · Post by **DickieG** » 18 Sep 2011, 22:34

Having changed the matrix on several forms of Xantia the CT turbo engine is the worst version I've come across, access to the connection on the bulkhead requires quadruple jointed skinny arms with the strength of Charles Atlas