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Post by Xantic »

Got to laugh, after suffering the ride in the Vectra, the Xantia is now on the road..Much better ride but it is bouncy..Would it be spheres need changing, It feels more bouncy on the front, the ride is smooth though but as i said bouncy..

Also i think the ride height is a bit hogh on the front.How do you adjust it.

Any help appreciated.
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Post by Citroenmad »

Usually a bouncy ride is due to spheres. If you have no record of when they were last changed then you might want to get them tested or changed.

Is the car easy to press down when you press on the bumpers?
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Post by CitroJim »

Hi Russ, yes, that'll be spheres. You'll find they're around half what they should be pressure-wise and the ride will be a bit under-damped.

I have a favourite hump-backed bridge that tels me when mine are a bit low...

Ride height: Do the finger test. Three at the front and one at the rear. That means you can get three fingers between the top of the tyre and wheel arch at the front and one at the rear.

Ride height makes a fantastic difference to ride comfort and damping. Unfortunately it's a game to adjust it; you need a ramp and to be able to safely get under it without risk of getting squashed. The car must be dead-level too so all corners must be equally elevated on ramps.

Then, with those conditions satisfied, get under and adjust the linkage between the height corrector and the anti-roll bar until the height is correct, bearing in mind the height correctors can take up to 30s to correct a small change in height.

It's a bit of a job with a knack about it and must not be carried out until all spheres, including the accumulators, are known to be good and that the height correctors are intrinsically operating properly. In other words, height adjustment is only carried out as the very last job after all other suspects have been eliminated.

Your problem, if it persists after the spheres are replaced, is more likely to be friction in the height corrector mechanisms.
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Post by Xantic »

Thanks for the quick replies guys.
The front is hard top press down, a bit harder than the back i would say..

As for altering the ride height, i shall leave that to someone else..lol..
A;- I have no desire to be squashed
B;- I don't want to be doing it
C;- it's easier to let someone else do it and show me for next time
D;- when next time comes around i shall be too old to even get under the car

Thats the plan anyway.
I can live with it for now and will get a price for doing the spheres. It is a shame there is not anyone near me that would benefit from earning rather than a garage..In saying that i could travel and book me and the other half into a B&B for the night..It's nice to get away.. :P

It is nice though after riding around in a car that the last owner didn't pass on the suspension too..Thats what it felt like anyway, It resembled a road roller ride.

Thanks for your input and knowledge.
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Bouncy Bouncy? Was that the follow-up to Shiny, Shiny?

(Did it have Kate Garner in it, too? :twisted: )
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Lets hope my next post is not
BANG BANG.. :P
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Post by citroenxm »

Xantic DO NOT leave it too Long!!

The bouncy bouncy WILL cause stresses in other areas!!

If its a rubber type bouncy bouncy then its NOT good, it can cause stress on the rubbers on the strut tops I BELEVE!! As theres no movment in the sphere gas it needs to flex else where!

As for spheres, book a weekend up here! Ill do them, 30 quid a corner supplied and FITTED..!

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Post by Xantic »

lol I was hoping you had moved to St.Ives in Cornwall..Or Brixham in Devon..

Seriously Paul. I might take you up on that offer you never know..
Are you only available on weekends Paul?
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Post by CitroJim »

citroenxm wrote: If its a rubber type bouncy bouncy then its NOT good, it can cause stress on the rubbers on the strut tops I BELEVE!!
You are believing quite correctly sir!

Paul, I'm just about to send you a PM...
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Post by citroenxm »

Xantic wrote:lol I was hoping you had moved to St.Ives in Cornwall..Or Brixham in Devon..

Seriously Paul. I might take you up on that offer you never know..
Are you only available on weekends Paul?
If you organise a day, I can take a day off work as a holiday and meet you so NO not just weekends!

You can then have a look at all the others in the FLEET! :lol: :lol:

Im a bit obsessive.. Its such a shame you have just bought another, mums T reg Silver HDi SX has just come availble after they have just bought a Y reg one...

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Post by Xantic »

I bet thats in tip top condition too.
Don't tell me it has leather seat also.

You've just ruined my weekend lol
I could always sell this one..As i get thumped from the other half..
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Post by citroenxm »

No yet, I WAS planning on putting leather in, as I do have a set to collect.. Embaressengly well OVER due... :oops: :oops: (You know who you are :lol: )

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addo wrote:Bouncy Bouncy? Was that the follow-up to Shiny, Shiny?

(Did it have Kate Garner in it, too? :twisted: )
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Xac
If my next post is Bang bang.. Don't reply..lol

I don't want to be banned..
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Xantic wrote:Xac
If my next post is Bang bang.. Don't reply..lol

I don't want to be banned..
We normally leave the really smutty replies up to Malcolm :D
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