Xantia Height Corrector Strip down - AGONY!

Post by **CitroJim** » 15 Jan 2011, 19:05

Ahh, you know what you've done, the two pipes on the two-pipe side of the height corrector are the wrong way round!!

They go opposite to what you'd think from looking at them. It's an easy error to make. Swap over the two pipes and all will be well...

The height corrector will slide to an extent on the 11mm bolts and slightly slotted holes but the height change will not be huge from one end to the other. Good for making a final fine adjustment only..

Good to hear no leaks yet

You may have got away with it

Post by **Rhothgar** » 15 Jan 2011, 19:11

Jim.

You're a star!

So glad that you are still sitting in front of the computer.

I will go and try that. I really can't see how I got them the wrong way around but it sounds good.

I did bend them out of the way ever so slightly so I will have a quick check and report back.

Hopefully the photo I posted the other day shows the pipes clearly and then I will know before I proceed to unscrew them.

Was just reading through a post of rear brake bleeding but it sounds almost impossible.

My mate has gone home to put his son to bed and will be back in about 35 minutes. I am hoping to be finished by then and treat him to a curry for letting me use a ramp all day.

So the point is is do I really need a tube in with the bottom submersed in LHM on a Citroen. Not sure I do or will I need him to nip the nipples up once I have pressed the brakes?

Or can I just open the nipples one at a time and let fluid trickle out?

Post by **Rhothgar** » 15 Jan 2011, 19:13

Naturally, s*d's law dictates that the height corrector is not in the photos on the other post.

Suppose I better depressurise again and switch 'em over!

Post by **CitroJim** » 15 Jan 2011, 19:17

My method for rear brake bleeding is this. Up on high. Jack up one side a tad just so the wheel clears the deck. pop that wheel off and drop the jack a tad so the other wheel is under load. Jam down the brake pedal, engine running, open the bleed nipple into a jar and bleed until no more bubbles come out. Shut the nipple, release brake pedal. No need to worry abot having the tube submerged.

Repeat on the other side.

The trick is to have some load on the rear suspension so the LHM will flow. If both rear wheels are up in the air there is no load,and consequently no suspension pressure and as the rear brakes are fed by rear suspension pressure to give load sensitive brakes, no LHM will flow, hence the need to have the suspension loaded.

Post by **Rhothgar** » 15 Jan 2011, 19:18

Currently, when standing underneath the rear of the car, the pipe nearest the front end goes down under the bracket and connects into the 4 way union and the one at the rear goes out, up and over the rear of the rear subframe.

Post by **Rhothgar** » 15 Jan 2011, 20:21

Job Done!

Cheers Jim et al.

Lights out finally.

Post by **CitroJim** » 15 Jan 2011, 20:38

Excellent

Enjoy the curry Rog, you and your mate deserve it!!!

Post by **Rhothgar** » 15 Jan 2011, 23:38

Fully satiated now!

Eyes bigger than my belly! Luckily, steered clear of a starter.

Thanks for that gem about the pipes. I felt crushed at that point thinking of the old adage my late father used to say to me when I was a teen tinkering with cars - oh that was a long time ago!

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Will upload the photies to my website tomorrow and pm you the link.

When I bled the rear brakes I thought it had Hydro in it? Nasty browny orange colour.

Am wondering if I should replace with LHM before Hydroflush so I can at least see the colour difference. Perhaps overkill.

Car seemed a little more at ease on the way home presumably because the levers somehow affect damping if seized solid?

Couldn't see how to remove internal damper discs in HC.

I think new spheres all round for the sheer hell of it after the Hydroflush has done its job.

A post for another day.

Rhothgar is retiring to bed now!

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 16 Jan 2011, 10:46

Pipes in wrong way round
They're easy to cross

Post by **Rhothgar** » 16 Jan 2011, 10:53

Hi Xac

All sorted now.

Irritating (but very funny now in hiindsight) to watch the car see-sawing.

If Citroens reacted faster, there could be a niche for Children's Playgrounds! Weeeee!

On a serious side though, I punctured the diaphragm as I didn't realise how to get it off for about two hours (with there not being a guide at present), have you any ideas who might stock them as they are NFP.

Malc said try Plieades but not been reading good reviews on the net about them not being interested in selling small parts? Still I'll give them a try anyway.

Other ideas / sources would be appreciated.

addo · Post by **addo** » 16 Jan 2011, 11:26

The Brownhills sell a rubber kit for DS through BX so it may well be that your Xantia is also catered for with its parts:

http://shop.citroenclassics.co.uk/heigh ... -253-p.asp

Post by **CitroJim** » 16 Jan 2011, 11:31

I'm pretty certain they're the same in the rubber department...

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 16 Jan 2011, 11:35

Jim wrote
"If both rear wheels are up in the air there is no load,and consequently no suspension pressure"

i dont find it necersery to have weight on one rear wheel whilst bleeding the back brakes Jim,

as long as the rear is fully up even with wheels off the ground you will get a good flow of citro blood,

unless H/A cars behave diderently?????

Rog it wernt i mentionning Martin at Pleiades 01487 831239 but i usualy do,

it could be people were haveing probs with him whilst he was moveing premissis a while back,

as they have been overhauleing citroen hydraulic components for quite a few years now,

regards malcolm

Post by **CitroJim** » 16 Jan 2011, 11:42

Interesting, I reckon that Hydractive and Activa cars must behave differently then Malcolm... I have found on all mine that I get no flow unless there's weight apparent but thinking back, you know I never recall having to do the same on non-Hydractive cars....

It's been a long time since I've spannered a non-Hydractive in the brake department...

Maybe I just don't use a big enough hammer on them....

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 16 Jan 2011, 11:48

regards malcolm