Hi
I bought a Xantia a couple of weeks ago. Everything is fine with it apart from it has got a LHM leak. I replaced the front sphere last weekend thinking it was that but it hasnt made a difference. It seems to be from the accumulator area but I cant identify it that easily.
Any ideas what it could be?
Only downside is that the snow is starting to set in so rolling around in the snow is not my idea of fun
Leaky LHM on Xantia
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Hi, welcome to Hydraulic owner ship..
Its quite likely then, the END Seal on the regulator unit could have gone, this is a result of NOT changing the regulator sphere and running it "Flat" with no gas in the Sphere. Of course, this is a previous owner error, not yours.
Try Martin at Plieadies Hydraulics.. for a replacement. There are topics on here about rebuilding the regulators, (I think), but thats down to how skilled you are.
Paul
Its quite likely then, the END Seal on the regulator unit could have gone, this is a result of NOT changing the regulator sphere and running it "Flat" with no gas in the Sphere. Of course, this is a previous owner error, not yours.
Try Martin at Plieadies Hydraulics.. for a replacement. There are topics on here about rebuilding the regulators, (I think), but thats down to how skilled you are.
Paul
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The sphere was definitely flat as the new one makes everything much more bouncy.
I need to replace the rest but I was trying to work out whether the Xanita is worth saving. This is one of many niggles including the windscreen defroster vents not working so thougth I would see if it can be easily fixed or whether it is becoming a money pit.
Dont really want to rebuild stuff, would rather replace it. Any idea of cost?
I need to replace the rest but I was trying to work out whether the Xanita is worth saving. This is one of many niggles including the windscreen defroster vents not working so thougth I would see if it can be easily fixed or whether it is becoming a money pit.
Dont really want to rebuild stuff, would rather replace it. Any idea of cost?
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Honestly, it's impossible to accurately diagnose without more info, and possibly good pictures.
Leaks around the regulator area can come from sphere seals (uncommon), weepy regulators (slightly common), fractured PAS line (ditto) and reg blowoff hose (quite common).
Xantias are the last of the "simple" cars (pre multiplex, and with 100% hydromechanical linkages for all suspension/steering aspects). So long as they're not rusty, they're good cars. Simple to repair if you don't try to bodge, parts still available and a comfy car that eats up the miles. I've done well over 900 miles in a day driving solo, and experienced no fatigue due to ergonomics, nor a sore bum from bad seats.
Leaks around the regulator area can come from sphere seals (uncommon), weepy regulators (slightly common), fractured PAS line (ditto) and reg blowoff hose (quite common).
Xantias are the last of the "simple" cars (pre multiplex, and with 100% hydromechanical linkages for all suspension/steering aspects). So long as they're not rusty, they're good cars. Simple to repair if you don't try to bodge, parts still available and a comfy car that eats up the miles. I've done well over 900 miles in a day driving solo, and experienced no fatigue due to ergonomics, nor a sore bum from bad seats.
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I agree. This is what I believe ---> "A Picture Worth a Thousand Words".addo wrote:Honestly, it's impossible to accurately diagnose without more info, and possibly good pictures. ...
xantia (or hydraulic cars in general ) are not the easiest but they are dream cars if you take care of them
It depends so much on the car's history, previous owner(s) and etc. that is it a money pit or a big save.
What model Xantia, petrol/diesel, engine, year, .... did you buy?
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Already serviced it and noticed an air leak which is now fixed. Will try and get a pic once weather clears up a bit. Miserable cold and snowing.
Already serviced it and noticed an air leak which is now fixed. Will try and get a pic once weather clears up a bit. Miserable cold and snowing.
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Welcome to Xantia ownership!
As Addo says "Xantias are the last of the "simple" cars. So long as they're not rusty, they're good cars. Simple to repair if you don't try to bodge, parts still available and a comfy car that eats up the miles."
I'd add:
- relatively cheap to service/repair (provided you shop around for parts - GSF are a good source),
- long distance cruising in comfort as fast as is safe for both license and limb - we (a middled-aged couple) do a regular 130-mile trip to rural Devon in 2¼ hrs or less; leaving after work and arriving in time for dinner without feeling shattered,
- self-levelling suspension with a ride that improves(!) with increasing load right up to a full load and a full tank (60L),
- excellent road-holding (even on poor surfaces),
- phenomenally powerful brakes.
Most mechanics (including Citroen agents) don't like Xantias because they're "complicated" and "weird" - in reality, blind xenophobia (fear of strangers). As you clearly know how to do your own servicing, there's almost nothing that you can't do yourself on your Xantia with a little guidance from knowledgeable forum members.
You might like to add details of your car to your signature so that we don't have to keep asking for Year, Engine, Model (LX, SX, VSX), Body.
Your non-locking tailgate could be a broken wire in the area of the hinge, but just as likely it needs lubricating. Simple enough job, but be very careful how you remove and refit the plastic waterseal otherwise you'll have a lake (ice-rink) in the back footwell.
As Addo says "Xantias are the last of the "simple" cars. So long as they're not rusty, they're good cars. Simple to repair if you don't try to bodge, parts still available and a comfy car that eats up the miles."
I'd add:
- relatively cheap to service/repair (provided you shop around for parts - GSF are a good source),
- long distance cruising in comfort as fast as is safe for both license and limb - we (a middled-aged couple) do a regular 130-mile trip to rural Devon in 2¼ hrs or less; leaving after work and arriving in time for dinner without feeling shattered,
- self-levelling suspension with a ride that improves(!) with increasing load right up to a full load and a full tank (60L),
- excellent road-holding (even on poor surfaces),
- phenomenally powerful brakes.
Most mechanics (including Citroen agents) don't like Xantias because they're "complicated" and "weird" - in reality, blind xenophobia (fear of strangers). As you clearly know how to do your own servicing, there's almost nothing that you can't do yourself on your Xantia with a little guidance from knowledgeable forum members.
You might like to add details of your car to your signature so that we don't have to keep asking for Year, Engine, Model (LX, SX, VSX), Body.
Your non-locking tailgate could be a broken wire in the area of the hinge, but just as likely it needs lubricating. Simple enough job, but be very careful how you remove and refit the plastic waterseal otherwise you'll have a lake (ice-rink) in the back footwell.
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hi and welcome
on fitting the new reg sphere did you place the seal into its seat in the kneck of the regulator, and smear some citro blood over its mateing surface before screwing the new sphere into place,
if not you might have damaged the seal
were abouts are you apart from in the cold,
regards malcolm
on fitting the new reg sphere did you place the seal into its seat in the kneck of the regulator, and smear some citro blood over its mateing surface before screwing the new sphere into place,
if not you might have damaged the seal
were abouts are you apart from in the cold,
regards malcolm
Will do.
Yes I read the sticky on here so did that with the seal and dipped it in fresh fluid before fitting it in the groove and then screwing on the sphere.
I live near Heathrow. Found a Citroen specilist in Iselworth so booked it in there as I don tthink I am going to get a chance to look at it before the weekend.
I have had Xantias before but this is the first one I have needed to tinker with. Bought it to run on Veg oil which it does fantastically well!
Yes I read the sticky on here so did that with the seal and dipped it in fresh fluid before fitting it in the groove and then screwing on the sphere.
I live near Heathrow. Found a Citroen specilist in Iselworth so booked it in there as I don tthink I am going to get a chance to look at it before the weekend.
I have had Xantias before but this is the first one I have needed to tinker with. Bought it to run on Veg oil which it does fantastically well!
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I'm very much with Addo and Guy, the Xantia was the last of the old-school Citroens that are repairable relatively easily. They hold no surprises...
If it's the end of the regulator that's leaking then the best option is to go to a scrappy and appropriate one from a similarly aged Xantia. They're all the same.
I'd be surprised if it was leaking badly from the end as this is a fault most often seen on a V6...
If it's the end of the regulator that's leaking then the best option is to go to a scrappy and appropriate one from a similarly aged Xantia. They're all the same.
I'd be surprised if it was leaking badly from the end as this is a fault most often seen on a V6...
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Ive seen some very leaky Regulators on TD Xantias!! Its harder to hear a Tick Rate on the regulators on TD Xantias.... so I guess the sphere gets neglected more frequently...
Every leakey regulator Ive seen has had a Flat sphere on them!
Paul
Every leakey regulator Ive seen has had a Flat sphere on them!
Paul
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto