Water leaks - Xantia

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RichardW wrote:Water pump, or the plastic inlet housing on the back of the block - which is a right bar steward to change :twisted:
In that case I'm sure we can all guess which one its most likely to be :roll:
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Oh yes...had forgotten about that housing - failure was common a few years ago, but they seem to have dried up now :roll: Later ones must be better! Trick is to remove the OS driveshaft IIRC. There are also the heater pipes above that - I had one of those go on a BX TD - pipe cost about £10, fitting it cost £120!!
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Second Richard, Most likely Water Pump, as it drips down the side of the block behind the belt, then due to the angle if the sump runs to the rear corner....

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I've been quoted £250 to have a new pump fitted. The timing belt would be done as well. Torn now as to whether I should bother or not. Should I just cut my losses and get something else. You know what its like when a car starts costing money and you keep paying out until one day you have to say 'Enough is enough!'
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If your current car is in good condition then it would be better to keep it.

If you still want to change, what about a Xantia MK2? It's hard to find good ones but it's worth searching.
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Not sure I'd go for another Xant to be honest. Although I love it, I think you need to be mechanically competent and have a fully fitted garage to be able to afford to run one. That's me out on 2 counts.
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To my mind, it's usually a matter of "Better the devil you know."

Either one buys a cheap car (but ask yourself "What really prompted the previous/current owner to decide to get rid of it?"), spends no money on it and drive it until it dies (usually at a very inconvenient time and place) OR one has to expect to spend some money on servicing and repairs to keep the car reliable.

In my limited experience, Xantias are reliable and long-lived and thus relatively inexpensive to run. Kept in good repair, virtually all the depreciation on Xantia is in the past, and a diesel can be expected to go to 200K plus.
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For those interested it was the little plastic housing that had broken. Now repaired for £125. So she got a reprieve...for now.
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Good to hear that the problem is solved and
thanks for informing the solution 8-)
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Good stuff, I have heard of these houses failing, either the plastic cracking, or the O ring seal failing...

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For some reason I read the title as "Wikileaks - Xantia". I thought for a minute, Hillary Clinton had been accusing Peugeot/Citroen of using a bespoke variant of a large family car during the infiltration of various nuclear processing sites and installations in Pakistan that might lead to some sort of US prceived national security risk. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Penguin »

citroenxm wrote:Good stuff, I have heard of these houses failing, either the plastic cracking, or the O ring seal failing...

Paul
The plastic had broken away where the seal sits, causing the coolant to disperse itself all over the road. Apparently not at all uncommon. I guess this is a situation where Citroen didn't do enough homework on their material choice for what is quite a simple part. Mind you, plastics have come on quite a lot since the Xant was made.
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Good outcome. But, even if it had cost £250 to repair then to be honest with you £250 is not really an excessive bill for a car. I deffinatly think it would be worth it, even if it cost £350 - unless its an old dog of a car and one that you dont really care about, in which case perhaps not.

Can I ask you, how would you be better off in scrapping it and buying another car? Would your new car cost more than £250? If yes then straight away your wasting more money than having had the Xant repaired.

My girlfriends parents have just had a £700 bill on there 1997 Xantia - its not even a special one or anything, just a 1.8 sx..........with 140k miles on the clock!
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Post by citroenxm »

some people got soooo attached they will spend any amount on their beloved to keep them going.. which is good, Im all for older cars, not these newer euro box Cans...

250 quid, yes that would get you another xantia if you looked around, my L reg TD SX in my signiture cost 80 quid... plus mot and some spheres.

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Its not the £250 on its own that is the problem. In the last 4 or 5 months I have spent over £100 3 times and then its the £250 on top. Now, if this was the last problem I was going to have then fair enough, but at some point the car becomes a money pit whereby it is better to get rid rather than throw good money after bad. There is a judgement to be made as to whether you consider it likely that the thing will just be one more (expensive) problem after another. Add to the cost the actual inconvenience of being without the car whilst it is getting repaired and there's another justification for spending a few quid and buying something, hopefully, more reliable. I like my Xantia, but I am in no way 'emotionally attached' to it so it won't be a real tear jerker getting rid of it.

Edit: Ashy, I can't vouch for the sanity of your girlfriends parents but I will tell you that if my car goes wrong and its going to cost £700 to put right, it will not be put right! What is right for one person to spend their money on doesn't automatically make it right for another person.
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