ECP no longer stocking sphere's

Post by **KennyW** » 22 Nov 2010, 12:37

Hi guys,

Just a thought, would or can the C5 spheres be used on Xantias or would it require a change in the strut top

Kenny

P.S. I need arear silencer for the old girl and guess what ECP don't stock exhausts.

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 22 Nov 2010, 12:56

Designed for different fluid, so I guess the diaphrams wouldn't last against LHM...

DONT FORGET: Citroen Services or AEP also do Spheres!! AND Very good quality aswell, NEVER had a Bad sphere from them. As its been discussed elsewere, IFHS spheres are MUCH better then Amtek Ones..!!

Paul

Post by **myglaren** » 22 Nov 2010, 13:10

Paul,
I'm sure I have seen that C5 spheres were fitted to the last run of Xantais.
Can't say if that was appearance only with the original type of diaphragm fitted but I'd suspect not. They were more likely giving them a pre-production airing to discover any in-use problems.

C5 spheres are twice the price of the jolly green ones though.

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 22 Nov 2010, 15:02

They will be, they last twice as long...

Ive got an X plate 2000 Xantia, with - well, Xantia spheres, so unless its the end of line Y plate petrols, I would have thought more likely someone has put them on.. I wouldn't be sure of the confusion it would cause to owners...

Paul

f00lzz · Post by **f00lzz** » 22 Nov 2010, 16:38

I can confirm that my V6 Xantia had C5 spheres fitted... I thought that the LHM in Xantia's can be used in C5 spheres but not the other way around!

KP · Post by KP » 22 Nov 2010, 20:52

I can confirm that C5 spheres will work on a xantia. I have a nice french word doc showing how to make the adapter up and have spoken to Plaides (Martin IIRC) who confirmed LDS and LHm are not that different so as long as new spheres were used should be fine, and would give a softer ride when used on corner and hydractive parts...

DickieG · Post by **DickieG** » 22 Nov 2010, 21:02

The threads on C5 sphere's are the same as Xantia/older sphere's I think the adaptor can only be necessary for clearance purposes just like the N/S/F strut on my DS.

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 22 Nov 2010, 21:04

Well well.... we have NO worries then about Xantia units dissappering then...

Paul

DickieG · Post by **DickieG** » 22 Nov 2010, 21:10

citroenxm wrote:Well well.... we have NO worries then about Xantia units dissappering then...

Paul

One position I wonder about with the width of C5 sphere's is the accumulator as its rather tight there at the best of times against the engine, I'll have to do a sizing up/test fit with one of the C5 sphere's I have in stock next time I'm checking sphere's, its a pity I didn't think of that on Saturday when I did the BIL's car

Post by **CitroJim** » 23 Nov 2010, 21:40

On a related point, I wonder if C5 Strut Tops could be adapted for the Xantia?

I'm currently pondering the biggest threat to running a Xantia long into the future and things that really might be irrepairable or unobtainable a few years down the line, thus writing off the car. Strut Tops seem a prime candidate..

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 23 Nov 2010, 21:44

Jim

Thats easy on the Xantia - FIT Series 2 Xantia Tops!!

They last 5 times longer then S1 tops!!!

Paul

Post by **CitroJim** » 23 Nov 2010, 22:01

citroenxm wrote: They last 5 times longer then S1 tops!!!

So, based on the average S1 strut top lasting 10 years it follows that...

An S2 strut top should be good for 50 years

Excellent! No worries there then.

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 23 Nov 2010, 22:05

Put it this way Jim..

Ive now got Series 2 Tops on my S1 Xantia, the tops came off a HDi SX that had a massive 260k on the clock... I had absolutly NO reason to beleve they had been changed.. yes there was signs of the rubber cracking, but the metal was solid..

On another S2, I know for a fact, that lived up here, the car has done 289k on original tops, again with signs of slight rubber cracking, but SOLID metal!

So we NEED to collect Series 2 Tops from scrap yards, Oh, and Normal Tops CAN and I Know have been converted to Hydractive tops!!

PAUL

Xantidote · Post by **Xantidote** » 24 Nov 2010, 11:08

Paul

When you fitted the S2 top struts to your S1, did you have to change the suspension struts as well? Any other changes?

citroenxm · Post by **citroenxm** » 24 Nov 2010, 12:45

Hi Xantidote,

Struts fitted straight into the car no problem,, but you got me thinking now, I cannot remember if I changed the strut or not with them... I think I used the orginal 94 struts, because I have a pair of tops with no stut in them in the shed...

Paul