ABS light on constantly
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ABS light on constantly
Hi folks
Xantia estate HDi 90 SX.
Its no surprise its been flashing on/off and going away for months on end for 2 years now (always good for MOT oddly!!).
I don't have a Lexia so any advice gratefully accepted.
One - find the dodgy wheel and Two - how to fix - I know its a pain if its a front one that's gone.
I've hard could be dirt or poor connection if I am lucky!
many thanks in advance
Paul
Xantia estate HDi 90 SX.
Its no surprise its been flashing on/off and going away for months on end for 2 years now (always good for MOT oddly!!).
I don't have a Lexia so any advice gratefully accepted.
One - find the dodgy wheel and Two - how to fix - I know its a pain if its a front one that's gone.
I've hard could be dirt or poor connection if I am lucky!
many thanks in advance
Paul
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If you do a search there's several threads on it, which detail which pins you need to check on the ABS ECU connector to determine which sensor is misbehaving.
You'll need the Mk2 pin layout.
The fronts are a doddle to replace, the rears are a bit more of a pain.
You'll need the Mk2 pin layout.
The fronts are a doddle to replace, the rears are a bit more of a pain.
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Here you go, it's in the handy hints and tips section:
http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... hp?t=26012
http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... hp?t=26012
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My money's on a grotty connection at the ECU plug.
Garages and dealers love to plug in a Lexia (or equivalent) which always diagnoses a faulty sensor (£120+ plus labour) - that's what the light's telling you anyway.
So first they replace the 'faulty' sensor - without curing the fault - THEN they do what they should have done in the first place and look for a bad connection.
Of course the bill would then have been so much smaller!
Garages and dealers love to plug in a Lexia (or equivalent) which always diagnoses a faulty sensor (£120+ plus labour) - that's what the light's telling you anyway.
So first they replace the 'faulty' sensor - without curing the fault - THEN they do what they should have done in the first place and look for a bad connection.
Of course the bill would then have been so much smaller!
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ABS light on constantly
Cheers old guy - I'll try there at weekend.
I've tried to search previous posts on measuring current on ECU to find which wheel is at fault but no luck on searching.
many thanks
Paul
I've tried to search previous posts on measuring current on ECU to find which wheel is at fault but no luck on searching.
many thanks
Paul
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You want to measure resistance not current, and on the plug that goes to the abs ecu by the lhm tank not the ecu itself.
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ABS light on constantly
Xac cheers for that will do this weekend.
Paul
Paul
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ABS fault finding
Hi folks
Right plug off, engine on, resistance on meter on, only got a reading across one pair . I don't think I am doing this right as the only resistance I got was across one diagonal pair.
Does anyone have a diagram that actually shows the plug and the wiring pin outs/ The PDFs I've found do NOT show the plug only the ABS warning light.
I can't believe they are all screwed bar one!
any help gratefully received
Paul
Right plug off, engine on, resistance on meter on, only got a reading across one pair . I don't think I am doing this right as the only resistance I got was across one diagonal pair.
Does anyone have a diagram that actually shows the plug and the wiring pin outs/ The PDFs I've found do NOT show the plug only the ABS warning light.
I can't believe they are all screwed bar one!
any help gratefully received
Paul
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As a clincher before buying a new sensor: with the 'ignition' off, unplug the sensor and test for a small AC voltage with a Digital Multi-Meter while someone spins the relevant wheel. You'll probably need 'test' the other good side first to know what to expect.
The DMM needs to be set on AC volts to give a reading because the sensor produces a string of pulses.
The DMM needs to be set on AC volts to give a reading because the sensor produces a string of pulses.
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Found it - faulty sensor
Many thanks - with that diagram - I found it!
--Next silly question - the graphic says front left for example (that is the one with zero reading) is that offside or nearside
Near-side of the car being the Passenger's side and the Off-side is the Driver's side. Sorry but just want to sure - assume the diagram means "left side" from as you view it from front of car?
Thanks again for all the great help from this forum!
Paul
--Next silly question - the graphic says front left for example (that is the one with zero reading) is that offside or nearside
Near-side of the car being the Passenger's side and the Off-side is the Driver's side. Sorry but just want to sure - assume the diagram means "left side" from as you view it from front of car?
Thanks again for all the great help from this forum!
Paul
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I've used this diagram in the past and I'm sure I would have remembered if Left had not meant Nearside.
As you've got a zero reading at the ECU connection I'd check the connector on the strut - I'm fairly sure there's no intermediate connection on the front sensors - and that the sensor's wires aren't broken. Intermittent then permanent doesn't sound like an electronic failure (they usually fail totally) more like an iffy connection (though it might be internal to the sensor.
As you've got a zero reading at the ECU connection I'd check the connector on the strut - I'm fairly sure there's no intermediate connection on the front sensors - and that the sensor's wires aren't broken. Intermittent then permanent doesn't sound like an electronic failure (they usually fail totally) more like an iffy connection (though it might be internal to the sensor.
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1995 Xantia Estate SX 1.9TD in Vert Vega "The Green Lady" - after 11 years now owned by XanTom
1998 Xantia 2.1 VXD Estate in Mauritius Blue - R.I.P. (terminal tin-worm)
1995 Xantia Estate SX 1.9TD in Vert Vega "The Green Lady" - after 11 years now owned by XanTom
1998 Xantia 2.1 VXD Estate in Mauritius Blue - R.I.P. (terminal tin-worm)
Great advice again
Thanks Old Guy - so there' s a connector on the strut - I'll go look for that!
cheers
paul
cheers
paul
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