Knocking from starter-motor
Moderator: RichardW
Knocking from starter-motor
Ahh, the Xant is being a Citroén again! When I start it up the starter-motor is making a knocking or clunking noise like it's not mounted properly or something. Sometimes the knocking is louder, sometimes it is barely hearable. But the louder it is, the harder it is to start! So probably corroded or loose mounts ? If so how would I check it ? Cos I don't want to be stranded as I have a 300 mile journey home on Wednesday!!
1998 Citroen Xantia 2.0 16V I4 with 148,200 miles on the clock. Bought it with 123,000.
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The mounts won't be corroded. Grab it and wiggle with the engine off. Should be rock solid.
Check your top motor mount (driver's side, near the strut top). They collapse with age/abuse and a new rubber part is only from Citroen for some models - probably about £45. The accompanying snubbers are available from factors, made by people like QH.
Check your top motor mount (driver's side, near the strut top). They collapse with age/abuse and a new rubber part is only from Citroen for some models - probably about £45. The accompanying snubbers are available from factors, made by people like QH.
Yes, I'd go for the missing tooth/teeth as well.
Might be worth a check...is there anywhere you can see the starter ring (ie a cover you can take off), so you can rotate the engine and check the teeth are all ok?
Might be worth a check...is there anywhere you can see the starter ring (ie a cover you can take off), so you can rotate the engine and check the teeth are all ok?
Jim Le Shed
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Perhaps you're right, its possibly the engine moving thats causing the knocking sound. But why is it moving more when harder to start? The loose connection mentioned by Peter.N is quite plausible (either on the starter itself or main engine ground).
I think we need a bit more information from Xantia2.0...
I think we need a bit more information from Xantia2.0...
Jim Le Shed
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Citroen C5 2.2 HDI Exclusive
Mazda RX8 231PS
Past history...
Mazda MX5
Renault Lagunas (3)
Peugeot 405, 205
Citroen CX's (5)
Citroen GS (lots of other Cars and Bikes too!!)
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Citroen C5 2.2 HDI Exclusive
Mazda RX8 231PS
Past history...
Mazda MX5
Renault Lagunas (3)
Peugeot 405, 205
Citroen CX's (5)
Citroen GS (lots of other Cars and Bikes too!!)
Well all I know is the engine is moving about 1-2" when I push down on it. The engine does shudder a bit when the starter motor is operated. The starter-motor & grounds were replaced in early 2010, so they should be fine. I'm pretty sure the engine mount is the problem, and speaking on the phone, the AA man thinks so too. Now what I want to know is will the engine moving 1-2" be an MOT failure ? And if so how the hell did it pass the last one 3 weeks ago!?
1998 Citroen Xantia 2.0 16V I4 with 148,200 miles on the clock. Bought it with 123,000.