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After reading the thread about estate car handling, and looking at the picture used by addo to demonstrate a point about wheel rims.

Here's the picture below.....

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Looking at the picture, and the car looks very nice, with a suitable colour for a hot climate, and the tinted windows. 8) It made me wonder about how the shiny part of the trims on the doors, and bumpers fare in the hot climate.

Here in the U.K they tend to get problems with water ingress, and they go white & milky in appearance.

Citroen maybe didn't spend much on making these trims, as they don't last long here. :x

So how long do these trims last in Australia, or any other part of the world?
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Mine's possibly in reasonable nick because it spent so long almost protected by a film of grime! A mate has a well used reddish metallic estate, and the mylar/aluminium-covered strips on his bumpers are grey.

One thing that sucks in hot weather is the huge expanse of black vinyl dash. It just pumps the heat back at you, aircon or not. Photo taken Friday 14th:

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Holy cr*p you could throw an egg on that :lol:
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The only time we see temperatures like that, they're being measured in Fairenheit :lol: :lol:
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Hello ACTIVE8, :D

Considering the savage sun we have at the latitude of 28 degrees, and 50 miles south of Brisbane, the bumpers and trims are holding very well.
The trims are still shiny, but the bumpers have turned grey nearly 10 years ago.
Despite that, I can still see the circular rubbing marks that I made when applying shoe polish to the bumpers, also nearly 10 years ago.
The inside fabric and plastic dash are still like new.
The car’s dark colour causes a lot of heat to accumulate, and it takes until about 3:00 AM to fully cool down.
I didn’t choose the colour, I bought what there was to buy.

I bought the car second-hand in 1997, and immediately applied window tinting.
The biggest problem with the dark colour is that with a common sort of red-green colour blindness, many people don’t see the dark red car in dark green tree-lined streets, and I’ve nearly been hit twice because of that.
Since then, I always drive with the sidelights on.

We leave our cars unlocked at work, and one of my colleagues winds his windows all the way down, and leaves the key in the ignition lock.

These pictures show the car parked outside my scrap of work in September of 2007 in the first picture, and last March in the 5 following pictures.
The windows are down by 2 inches, and a reflective sunshade is put behind the windscreen.
In summer, it’s 30ºC every day in the shade, with no variable weather; we’re in the sub-tropical zone.

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Another temperature reading (Celcius) from last year :) That's a challenge to design a vehicle to operate fully under such "eXtreme" conditions!

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Extreme condition of –22ºC at 17:43, so how cold does it get at night, :shock: and what does the car make of it next morning ?
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Good battery, winter plus pack and you get a guaranteed comfortable drive everyday.

The shiny part of the trims on the doors and bumpers are suffering from slight bubbling corrosion. They would need replacement but I couldn't find a good solution yet :cry:
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VertVega wrote: The shiny part of the trims on the doors and bumpers are suffering from slight bubbling corrosion. They would need replacement but I couldn't find a good solution yet :cry:
Someone in the UK supplies replacement stainless steel inserts for the door trims. I inherited a set with my new Activa but I'm not sure where they originally came from.

I then spotted a person selling some at the CCC Stratford Rally back in the summer and I cannot remember for the life of me who it was :(

Hopefully someone else will :)
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Post by addo »

As to the bumper trim - I think it's not stainless but some lesser metal with a thin film of Mylar/aluminium laminated over the top. When the Mylar is gone, the bright metal (just a whisper-thin film) wears off almost right away.

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citrojim wrote:Someone in the UK supplies replacement stainless steel inserts for the door trims. I inherited a set with my new Activa but I'm not sure where they originally came from.

I then spotted a person selling some at the CCC Stratford Rally back in the summer and I cannot remember for the life of me who it was :(

Hopefully someone else will :)
There was somebody advertising them on the forum a while back. I'm not sure if they are still available.

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... ght=strips
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VertVega wrote:Good battery, winter plus pack and you get a guaranteed comfortable drive everyday.

The shiny part of the trims on the doors and bumpers are suffering from slight bubbling corrosion. They would need replacement but I couldn't find a good solution yet :cry:
Where are you based to get a low temperature like that?

Winter plus pack?

We have a winter pack that we see here in the U.K. and obviously other countries that Citroen decided the different specifcation was needed, and made available.

So, does a winter plus pack exist and if it does, what's that in the spec a Eberspacher/Webasto heater, thermals etc? :wink:
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addo wrote:Mine's possibly in reasonable nick because it spent so long almost protected by a film of grime! A mate has a well used reddish metallic estate, and the mylar/aluminium-covered strips on his bumpers are grey.

One thing that sucks in hot weather is the huge expanse of black vinyl dash. It just pumps the heat back at you, aircon or not. Photo taken Friday 14th:

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:shock:
Hi addo.

Now that's hot !!
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Arctic circle is much closer to me than Eiffel tower :) Here in North sometimes winters can be really cold. We have additional items like under body protection shield, wind blocker in front of the radiator, heated engine breather hoses (double for top thin ones and one for the lower). Webasto is a must and in addition to that using only LHM+ and winter season oil like 5W 40. I can assure you that inside Xantia it is really warm, no freezing toes :D

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This is another photo from last year (No PhotoShop tricks).

At least in my Xantia min. limit of temperature reading is -30 and below that you can see only "- - -" on the display.
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Is yours and Addo's the extremes of Xantia temperatures I wonder VertVega?

Back in 1999 I spent a week in Ulaanbaatar, the capital of Mongolia. Mongolia is a gorgeous country, very unspoilt and pretty, except for Ulaanbaatar itself which is (was) typical Soviet-Bloc grey concrete Lego.

Anyway, I digress. I went in June and the weather was lovely but I was told that at the extreme of winter it drops to -40C and at the peak of sumer it soars to +40C :shock:

No Xantias to be seen though. All Russian stuff at the time and almost 100% petrol powered.
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