Towing a Xantia
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No, I have it exactly the right way around... being mid-engined, the centre of gravity on the trailer needs to be just forward of the wheels.andmcit wrote:
But you've got it on the wrong way round!?
Those Cx mirrors get about the place too, don't they!
And still around in '98...
Andrew
Lotus Esprit and various TVRs also used the CX mirrors - when was the last Esprit year?
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just one axle must be off the road to meet legal requirements,wheeler wrote:Im pretty sure all wheels must be off the ground if the car is not taxed.citronut wrote:you are allowed to tow a car with no MOT/ROAD TAX and/or INSURENCE, as long as one axle is off the ground, the only thing you might fall foul of the law on is as some one has said is the towed weight braked or un/braked,
The AA will not tow a car without tax unless it is full lifted on a flatbed.
Richard
it would be better to trailer the car, but then it would defenatly put your towed weight well over the limit,
how fare have you got to move the XANT,
a couple of years ago i hired ahydraulic tilt bed trailer from TRIDENT TRAILERS in tunbridgewells, when i went up to nottingham to collect my dead DS, we pulled it with a TD tr***it, and that strugled at times, the trailer cost me 56 squid from friday eve to monday mornning, it was supperb,
i also know of a wide wheel base braked towing dolly i can borrow for a small fee, not one of those silly ones with both wheels about two foot appart
regards malcolm
Dont know anything about towing legalities except that I have been told that you are not allowed to tow on a motorway, except towing a breakdown off.
I do remember towing a CX estate using a GSA as the tow car, we towed it on a rope and as the CX was a non runner, we removed the spark plugs and towed the thing in gear so that the hydraulic pump would be running to keep the hydraulics working. it was a tow of about 30 miles on fairly good roads and the little GSA coped very well.
I guess that this was on the foul side of the law, but when needs must as they say!
Regards,
Martin.
I do remember towing a CX estate using a GSA as the tow car, we towed it on a rope and as the CX was a non runner, we removed the spark plugs and towed the thing in gear so that the hydraulic pump would be running to keep the hydraulics working. it was a tow of about 30 miles on fairly good roads and the little GSA coped very well.
I guess that this was on the foul side of the law, but when needs must as they say!
Regards,
Martin.
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you are not ment to have or keep a complete un/taxed/moted or insured motor vehicle on a public highway for any reason,petercook44 wrote:Car can be towed without M.O.T,tax or insurance as long as engine isn't running is my understanding of law. Best way to make sure is ask a copper
although quite a few years ago some one gave me there GS which i had diagnosed with a colapsed rear sub frame, they parked it out side my house whilst i was out, we had just had a jumped up beat copper asinghed to our estate to clean up, he saw me moving the G to park it off the road and i ended up going to court, the judge said i had to seek lagal advise and pointed me in the direction of the in house solicitor, he said if i had removed the battery i could have got away with it, as you could not start the car and drive it
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This is of interest regards the legal towing angle:
http://www.ttas.co.uk/towsafe.cartransport.html
I believe that the unbraked limit is absolute (unless as defined above, the manufacturer sets a lower limit, or it's above 50% of the vehicle's 'weight' - whatever that might mean). The braked towing limit is, AFAIK, based on the weight the car will pull away with on a 1:4 slope - hence the higher towing weight limits for HDi 110 Xantias. The 85% rule is suggested by the caravan club as a 'sensible' limit for stable towing, but has no legal basis. Note that if you put a load of gear in the car this may reduce the the amount you can tow, since you must not exceed the maker's gross train weight for the car and trailer.
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http://www.ttas.co.uk/towsafe.cartransport.html
I believe that the unbraked limit is absolute (unless as defined above, the manufacturer sets a lower limit, or it's above 50% of the vehicle's 'weight' - whatever that might mean). The braked towing limit is, AFAIK, based on the weight the car will pull away with on a 1:4 slope - hence the higher towing weight limits for HDi 110 Xantias. The 85% rule is suggested by the caravan club as a 'sensible' limit for stable towing, but has no legal basis. Note that if you put a load of gear in the car this may reduce the the amount you can tow, since you must not exceed the maker's gross train weight for the car and trailer.
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i always thought the weight limit of what you can/could tow was intended, so what every you were towing could not take the control away from the towing vehcile, it was usualy rule of thumb in all the garages i have worked in, you should not tow anything which weighs more the two thirds of what your towing with
regards malcolm
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Thanks for all the information, relevant and otherwise. So it looks like towing a Xantia, on a trailer with a Xantia is a definite no-no, as the whole vehicle train would be over 3.5 tonne, thereby taking the whole lot into a different classification of towed vehicles.
Anybody know of a reliable vehicle collection company?
Handyman
Anybody know of a reliable vehicle collection company?
Handyman
IMHO, that explanation seems very unlikely, simply because the GS was one of the last cars to be provided with a starting handle - so it could still be started without the battery (probably do the alternator etc no good though) !lthough quite a few years ago some one gave me there GS which i had diagnosed with a colapsed rear sub frame, they parked it out side my house whilst i was out, we had just had a jumped up beat copper asinghed to our estate to clean up, he saw me moving the G to park it off the road and i ended up going to court, the judge said i had to seek lagal advise and pointed me in the direction of the in house solicitor, he said if i had removed the battery i could have got away with it, as you could not start the car and drive it
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You think the Judge would know that about a GS?dnsey wrote:IMHO, that explanation seems very unlikely, simply because the GS was one of the last cars to be provided with a starting handle - so it could still be started without the battery (probably do the alternator etc no good though) !lthough quite a few years ago some one gave me there GS which i had diagnosed with a colapsed rear sub frame, they parked it out side my house whilst i was out, we had just had a jumped up beat copper asinghed to our estate to clean up, he saw me moving the G to park it off the road and i ended up going to court, the judge said i had to seek lagal advise and pointed me in the direction of the in house solicitor, he said if i had removed the battery i could have got away with it, as you could not start the car and drive it
More likely without the battery the court would have agreed the car wasn't being "driven" on the road.
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