Evening people.
I think my Berlingo is unwell. It's a 52 reg, 2.0ltr HDi Berlingo van with 216k miles on the clock, and I stopped today to fill up with diesel. Coming back onto the A1 from the Shell station I chose my place in the line of traffic, indicated, booted it up the sliproad, and merged into the line as usual.
Except this time I heard the fatal sound of lost boost whistling away down by my knees. I stopped further on and switched off, then restarted (hoping things would magically fix themselves) but no different. It still drives okay, but there's a distinct lack of performance compared to usual, and the noise comes in when the turbo spools up.
So I'm guessing that it has a wastegated turbo and the wastegate spring has gone. A quick google gave some indication that there may be a solenoid which could be causing problems though, so can anyone give any pointers as to what the problem might be and is it a cheap fix solenoid or a full turbo?
Thanks in advance.
Berlingo HDi turbo issues.
Moderator: RichardW
- CitroJim
- A very naughty boy
- Posts: 49518
- Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
- Location: Paggers
- My Cars: Bluebell the AX, Polly the C3 Picasso, Pix the Nissan Pixo, Propel the duathlon bike, TCR Pro the road bike and Fuji the TT bike...
- x 6156
- Contact:
Hi Rusty and welcome to the forum I can't help unfortunately as I know nothing of HDi engines but I can only apologise for taking so long to activate you account today
I've been a bit on the busy side...
I've been a bit on the busy side...
Jim
Runner, cyclist, time triallist, duathlete, Citroen AX fan and the CCC Citroenian 'From A to Z' Columnist...
Runner, cyclist, time triallist, duathlete, Citroen AX fan and the CCC Citroenian 'From A to Z' Columnist...
- DickieG
- Monaco's youngest playboy
- Posts: 4877
- Joined: 25 Nov 2006, 09:15
- Location: Buckinghamshire
- My Cars:
- x 38
Carry out the easy checks first such as ensuring that the turbo hoses are still connected. IIRC the solenoid is located at the O/S/R of the engine bay, look for the rubber vacuum hoses running to/from it and ensure that they are not filled with crud by blowing them through.
13 Ram 1500 Hemi
14 BMW 535D Tourer
19 BMW i3s
06 C3 Desire 1.4
72 DS 21 EFi Pallas BVH
14 BMW 535D Tourer
19 BMW i3s
06 C3 Desire 1.4
72 DS 21 EFi Pallas BVH
Oil gets checked on a regular basis and changed every 12k miles with full synthetic Fuchs. Nothing amiss on that front. No black smoke that I could see really, but as soon as it failed on me I dropped it into my local mechanic round the corner from my house, loaded my stuff into his loan van, and carried on with the days work. It's still round there now and he's going to have a butchers in the morning.wheeler wrote:The 90bhp's dont have a solenoid for the wastegate, its controlled by a little pipe on the inlet.
I agree though it sounds like a turbo hose off somewhere.
Is there black smoke coming from the exhaust when you put your foot down ? have you checked your oil level ?
If it wasn't for the fact that I'd taken a weeks unplanned holiday due to a death in the family I'd have the time to take a look myself, but work has piled up and I can't spend time rolling about on the drive trying to fix my van when I've got a backlog like this. Summertime I have to work when I can as there's not a lot of work for a heating engineer when it's hot. Consequently, money is tight aswell. No win situation really, need the van to work, but no money to fix it....
Oh well, back to the BBQ and have another beer.
Judging by what people are saying it'll be a quick easy fix. I do hope so.
On a slightly off topic note, if this van decided it doesn't want to be fixed , what's the power output of the 1.6 HDi unit in the last of the old shape Berlingos? 75bhp or 90bhp?
- DickieG
- Monaco's youngest playboy
- Posts: 4877
- Joined: 25 Nov 2006, 09:15
- Location: Buckinghamshire
- My Cars:
- x 38
Both, it depends on what version you go for, I had 2.0 HDi 90bhp then a 1.6 HDi 90 Berlingo and found the 1.6 to be much quicker, no turbo lag and about 5 mpg more economical.Rustynuts wrote:On a slightly off topic note, if this van decided it doesn't want to be fixed , what's the power output of the 1.6 HDi unit in the last of the old shape Berlingos? 75bhp or 90bhp?
13 Ram 1500 Hemi
14 BMW 535D Tourer
19 BMW i3s
06 C3 Desire 1.4
72 DS 21 EFi Pallas BVH
14 BMW 535D Tourer
19 BMW i3s
06 C3 Desire 1.4
72 DS 21 EFi Pallas BVH
Well, good news!
Phonecall from the garage this morning and it's a turbo hose that's split in half. Cost of the part is only £6 plus vat. Plus the labour for fitting means that I'm only looking at a bill of around £400.......
Reason being that the subframe has to come off, the drive shafts have to come out, and various other bits and pieces have to be removed before you can even see the turbo, let alone remove the bloody pipe. Give me strength.
Phonecall from the garage this morning and it's a turbo hose that's split in half. Cost of the part is only £6 plus vat. Plus the labour for fitting means that I'm only looking at a bill of around £400.......
Reason being that the subframe has to come off, the drive shafts have to come out, and various other bits and pieces have to be removed before you can even see the turbo, let alone remove the bloody pipe. Give me strength.
Well, whatever they did I just picked it up again, and we're back in action. Total bill came to £147.99, which included £5.95 for the part, labour 2 hours (only!) + vat.
All in all, I reckon that was a very fair deal considering my initial fears, and I can thoroughly recommend Peter Marwood in Brompton on Swale for good service and fair pricing. Even to the extent of a loan van at short notice to keep me working while mine was fixed.
All in all, I reckon that was a very fair deal considering my initial fears, and I can thoroughly recommend Peter Marwood in Brompton on Swale for good service and fair pricing. Even to the extent of a loan van at short notice to keep me working while mine was fixed.