As the title suggests, my Xantia Activa has been naughty and needs some more lhm fluid !
Any suggestions where I can get some from on a Sunday, in Hertfordshire ?
Thanks
Help, Urgent need of some LHM fluid
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As Deian suggested, Halfords do usually have it. Although it normally only their own brand at about twice the price the total stuff costs at GSF. But if you need it urgently it is the only place I can think of open on a Sunday.
Deian, You must be lucky round your way if petrol stations still sell car related things. Round here you could buy a sandwich but if you are looking for LHM you are probably out of luck
Deian, You must be lucky round your way if petrol stations still sell car related things. Round here you could buy a sandwich but if you are looking for LHM you are probably out of luck
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Both my "local" motor factors stock LHM (either Morris , Comma or Total) - and one of mine is an "A1" franchise - http://www.a1motorstores.co.uk/storefinder.php
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I wonder if motorcycle fork oil might be suitable as a temporary substitute? I cannot recall if there is anything strange about it but in my biking days I recall it was thin.
Some in parts of the world where LHM is hard to get use ATF (Dextron or similar) but apparantly these have friction modifier additives to help automatic gearbox clutches grip well but in a Citroen suspension system it can werak havoc.
Lastly, what about (simple, not synthetic) two-stroke oil? Hardware stores sell it for lawn mowers. In fact those kind of shops would be the best place to get straight mineral oils as most 4-stroke lawn mowers still use straight SAE30 oil.
Some in parts of the world where LHM is hard to get use ATF (Dextron or similar) but apparantly these have friction modifier additives to help automatic gearbox clutches grip well but in a Citroen suspension system it can werak havoc.
Lastly, what about (simple, not synthetic) two-stroke oil? Hardware stores sell it for lawn mowers. In fact those kind of shops would be the best place to get straight mineral oils as most 4-stroke lawn mowers still use straight SAE30 oil.
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Both in earlier owners handbooks and Haynes, its mentioned that mineral engine oil 10w40 can be used in an emergency, in case of LHM leaks.
Any type mineral engine oil would in fact be suitable. Only the viscosity index (fluid thickness) limits its usage.
Do NOT use ANYthing else !
ATF contains friction modifiers and will definately not be a very good substitute.
Especially avoid DOT brake fluids & veggie oils ! ! !
DOT brake fluid = veggie oil base
Any type mineral engine oil would in fact be suitable. Only the viscosity index (fluid thickness) limits its usage.
Do NOT use ANYthing else !
ATF contains friction modifiers and will definately not be a very good substitute.
Especially avoid DOT brake fluids & veggie oils ! ! !
DOT brake fluid = veggie oil base
Last edited by AndersDK on 08 Jul 2007, 20:42, edited 1 time in total.
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I entirely agree with Anders - don't use ATF.
However I'm always curious why ATF is the choice for power steering systems which don't need friction modifiers. Perhaps its why my ZX pump bearings failed at 88,000 miles! I did wonder about re-filling with LHM but as the new pump will probably outlast my ownership of the car decided it wasn't worth taking a risk with the seals etc.
However I'm always curious why ATF is the choice for power steering systems which don't need friction modifiers. Perhaps its why my ZX pump bearings failed at 88,000 miles! I did wonder about re-filling with LHM but as the new pump will probably outlast my ownership of the car decided it wasn't worth taking a risk with the seals etc.
jeremy
Probably because its cheap and readily available...and once the choice is made to use it, the system (seals etc) is designed around it.jeremy wrote:I entirely agree with Anders - don't use ATF.
However I'm always curious why ATF is the choice for power steering systems which don't need friction modifiers. Perhaps its why my ZX pump bearings failed at 88,000 miles! I did wonder about re-filling with LHM but as the new pump will probably outlast my ownership of the car decided it wasn't worth taking a risk with the seals etc.
Just in the same way that DOT brake fluids are cheap and readily available and widly used even though they are inferior to mineral oils.
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Simon
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