crash test xantia FYI

jgra1 · Post by **jgra1** » 09 May 2007, 13:03

I was looking for load index info for my Xantia (I think is suopposed to be 91?) and found the following..

http://crash.citroenz.biz/Xantia/

you may have seen if before..

John

andmcit · Post by **andmcit** » 09 May 2007, 13:24

Thanks for that John...

I wont get out of bed in the mornings now.

Andrew

jgra1 · Post by **jgra1** » 09 May 2007, 14:05

sorry

mine has side airbags tho

i ride a motorbike, and any car feels a lot safer than that.. but you cant stop to worry about the what ifs...

_kid_ · Post by **_kid_** » 09 May 2007, 14:58

on a more positive note http://www.folksam.se shows the xantia in a positive light, based on real life crashes the xantia scores above average

Ross_K · Post by **Ross_K** » 09 May 2007, 15:15

You can watch the front and side impact vids on the Euro NCAP website:
http://www.euroncap.com/Player.aspx?nk= ... 42df82&t=1

Post by **CitroJim** » 10 May 2007, 10:40

If the Xantia NCAP is bad, I'd hate to see the same test performed on a 205

Can you have negative stars?

Having said that, anyone driving a French car should understand they're driving something made from recycled biscuit tins and drive accordingly.

As for pedestrain safety, should we not always be driving in such a manner that ensures any stray pedestrains are safe from us? Mind you, as a pedestrian I'd not want to get hit by a Xantia or XM, they'd cut you in half!!!

On a more serious note, I do worry that the better the apparant NCAP score the more a driver will be lulled into a false sense of security and thus drive intrinsically less safely in the (mistaken) belief that if anythng does go wrong, they'll be well protected. The "Volvo effect".

As has been said before, a great safety aid would be a big spike in the middle of the steering wheel

andmcit · Post by **andmcit** » 10 May 2007, 13:29

I totally agree the most dangerous aspect of driving on the roads today
isn't the car or it's crash worthiness BUT the mindset of the driver behind
the wheel;

There's the 'might is right' 4&4/People Carrier brick

There's the belligerent German barge driver that feels the world IS in the way...

and if these guys don't get you, the zombified brain in neutral and the
gear in 3rd 25mph driver that has no grasp of aniticpation/reading of
the road and is frighteningly the worst of the lot!

On rthe way home last night in quite appalling conditions driving my
CX GTi Turbo2 (not exactly a slow Citroen...

) I was 3rd in a
30mph procession behind a clearly visibly worried lone woman (rigid
arms and tensed over the wheel) in a Pug306 when at probably the
most dangerous point in my whole journey a Chrysler Voyager decided
to overtake us all down into a blind dip with a crossroads at the bottom
and cars sitting waiting to pull out in all directions and the chance the
lead car was about to turn left OR EVEN RIGHT!

what MrVoyager "got away with" may have used one of his nine lives
NOW I DON'T FANCY COLLECTING THE DEBRIS OF A NASTY AFTERMATH
- just so long as myself or family isn't coming the other way next time...

Total idiot - but at least he's got 8 or 12 etc airbags mind. Actually,
aren't they terrible in crash tests - US manufacturers are slow catching up...

Andrew

uhn113x · Post by **uhn113x** » 10 May 2007, 17:05

citrojim wrote:If the Xantia NCAP is bad, I'd hate to see the same test performed on a 205 Can you have negative stars?

Having said that, anyone driving a French car should understand they're driving something made from recycled biscuit tins and drive accordingly.

As for pedestrain safety, should we not always be driving in such a manner that ensures any stray pedestrains are safe from us? Mind you, as a pedestrian I'd not want to get hit by a Xantia or XM, they'd cut you in half!!!

On a more serious note, I do worry that the better the apparant NCAP score the more a driver will be lulled into a false sense of security and thus drive intrinsically less safely in the (mistaken) belief that if anythng does go wrong, they'll be well protected. The "Volvo effect".

As has been said before, a great safety aid would be a big spike in the middle of the steering wheel

Couldn't agree more, Jim
It's the "I'm all right, Jack" syndrome.

Have NCAP considered the safety of pedestrians being hit at all, especially by the Tonka Toys with huge towel rails on the front?

How about primary safety - centre point steering so you go in a straight line when a tyre blows out?

What about all these wide A and B posts and tiny windows compromising visibility? Yes, Audi A4, we mean you!

As far as I am concerned, I have no credibility in any of this safety rubbish - it is purely a marketing ploy.

nick · Post by **nick** » 10 May 2007, 17:25

The Xantia's rating wasn't actually that bad for a car designed in the early 90's. The BMW 3 series and Saab 900 of the same era didn't do much better. Only the Mondeo (considered a very "safe" car when it was launched) was significantly better at the time.

weety · Post by **weety** » 20 May 2007, 00:08

its strange but as i have got older my personal 'crumple zones' have expanded at the front (and now look to be expanding at the sides

_)

uhn113x · Post by **uhn113x** » 20 May 2007, 07:24

Weety
Are you sure it is not just a fuel tank for a s*x machine? Have you got the optional solar panel on your head as well?

weety · Post by **weety** » 20 May 2007, 08:25

uhn113x wrote:Weety
Are you sure it is not just a fuel tank for a s*x machine? Have you got the optional solar panel on your head as well?

working on the solar power (couple of years yet).... got wind power sorted out though

Post by **SteveG** » 20 May 2007, 23:44

andmcit wrote:I totally agree the most dangerous aspect of driving on the roads today
isn't the car or it's crash worthiness BUT the mindset of the driver behind
the wheel;

I couldn't agree more. The correct attitude/frame of mind is the single most important aspect of safe driving.

andmit wrote:There's the 'might is right' 4&4/People Carrier brick

Not all 4x4 owners/drivers fall into this category. I and the vast majority of my Land Rover owning friends are more than aware of the additional responsibilities involved in driving a large vehicle. As a consequence I am far more likely to give way to other road users when I'm in the Discovery than the Xantia.

andmit wrote:There's the belligerent German barge driver that feels the world IS in the way...

Couldn't agree more ... only too pleased to have parted company with my 7 Series ... I see them every day on the motorways

andmit wrote:and if these guys don't get you, the zombified brain in neutral and the
gear in 3rd 25mph driver that has no grasp of aniticpation/reading of
the road and is frighteningly the worst of the lot!

Actually, in about 90% of all driving situations 3rd gear is the right gear for 25/30mph driving. It enables you to accelerate quickly, if needed, or make small adjustments to road speed without use of the foot brake or employ engine braking downhill without chaning gear. In advanced driving terminology it's called "acceleration sense".

andmit wrote:On rthe way home last night in quite appalling conditions driving my
CX GTi Turbo2 (not exactly a slow Citroen... ) I was 3rd in a
30mph procession behind a clearly visibly worried lone woman (rigid
arms and tensed over the wheel) in a Pug306 when at probably the
most dangerous point in my whole journey a Chrysler Voyager decided
to overtake us all down into a blind dip with a crossroads at the bottom
and cars sitting waiting to pull out in all directions and the chance the
lead car was about to turn left OR EVEN RIGHT!

what MrVoyager "got away with" may have used one of his nine lives
NOW I DON'T FANCY COLLECTING THE DEBRIS OF A NASTY AFTERMATH
- just so long as myself or family isn't coming the other way next time...

Total idiot - but at least he's got 8 or 12 etc airbags mind. Actually,
aren't they terrible in crash tests - US manufacturers are slow catching up...

The problem with drivers like that is that they seldom get injured themselves

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