266 or 283 that is the question.

TehAgent · Post by **TehAgent** » 05 Apr 2007, 10:24

Right, i have a grinding coming from my front drivers side brake.

Been down to the local garage and had the wheel off to measure the brake disks as i need new disks and pads. and got told that my 1.9TD hatchback 1997 - 98 Xantia has 283 diameter brakes.

Anyway, headed off to my local supply store as they do them cheaper to see if he had any in stock, and got told that my car has the wrong Disks on it? He said that i should have 266mm on and not the 283, as the 283 are for a V6 xantia ?

So, have i got the wrong disks? should i really have the 266 on there, and would they even fit?

Kowalski · Post by **Kowalski** » 05 Apr 2007, 11:14

My '97 has the 283mm brakes... they're not supposed to but they do.

I thought the V6 Xantia got 288mm discs not the 283.

Post by **Peter.N.** » 05 Apr 2007, 11:15

If the existing pads are correctly locating on the disc, say within 10mm of the edge, they must be the correct ones. 266mm discs would have the pads running over the edge.

TehAgent · Post by **TehAgent** » 05 Apr 2007, 11:28

is the brake calliper different For the 283's ? as they also have diffrent brake pads. this is doing my head in. no one near me does 283's they all have 266

Tbh, I'm getting tired of my Xantia, its been one thing after another, and it seems a very expensive car to sort out so far. I got quoted £270 for the fronts, even though the parts only cost £38 for the pads and disks for the 266 and £68 for the 283's ?

Unfortunately I'm running on a budget now, so cant afford £270 or the lower quote i got of £180, as I've had to sort the car out this week with other things. and to top it off, i have the MOT coming up. Plus still need to sort out the back box on the exhaust.

I've never known such a expensive and down right frustrating car before.

Nothing is every simple with a Xantia.

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 05 Apr 2007, 11:42

Are you able to get to the parts place without your car?
I'd suggest taking off one of the discs and take it along with you buying whatever matches.
I changed the front discs and pads on my 1.9TD estate (sorry, if I had the reciept of box still I'd let you know their size).
It didn't take long to change mine, I had to drill off the holding screws and replace them with M6 countersunk ones (which needed shortening), and get the right size torx bit to take the calipers off, but the haynes manual covers it well.
Would save you the extautionate labour costs.

GSF's site gives N60116 as the part number for front discs for all Xantias except 16V/EST/2.1TD/HDI 110/V6 for £18.80+VAT each.

David W · Post by **David W** » 05 Apr 2007, 12:12

Exactly what are the £280 and £170 quotes for?

David

Post by **Peter.N.** » 05 Apr 2007, 14:11

Have you tried GSF? look on their website, I'm sure their parts are cheaper than that.

AndersDK · Post by **AndersDK** » 05 Apr 2007, 14:20

Our local car parts discount lists the 288mm discs for '99 on HDI's :
http://thansen.dk/product.asp?c=8544203 ... 1165781754

Its not only larger diameter 288, but the thickness is also larger as 28mm.
All other discs are the 266mm (20.4) or the 283/282.5 (22) diameters.

Note all discs are ventilated (except rears)

TehAgent · Post by **TehAgent** » 05 Apr 2007, 14:42

Well, the fronts are Vented, just got back from the Citroen stealer, and got a pair of front disks (283's) they are for the Xantia estate according to them, now i'm just waiting on brake pads

Disks cost me £65 for the pair from Citroen, as these were the cheapest near me. everyone else was asking over £70 for them.

Pads ain't to much of a problem, being only £16 from a different supplier

the £280 and £170. were quotes from Kwik fit and national tyres. for parts and labour.

If i had the tools id be doing it my self. but unfortunately i don't, so the next best option was to get the parts and see if i can get someone to fit them for me.

Only problem i have now, is because of the extra parts costs, because i have different disks. its left me with £20 to try and get someone to help fit them for me

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 05 Apr 2007, 14:54

Where abouts in Northamptonshire are you?

TehAgent · Post by **TehAgent** » 05 Apr 2007, 14:57

Xac, i tryed to send you a private message but i get a reply saying the admin is stopping me from doing so.

I live in wellingborough, northampton (little town just north of northampton its self)

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 05 Apr 2007, 15:01

I know Wellingborough, one my of gf's mates runs a pub there I think.

Trying to find out from her if I'm free on Monday as I still have the torx bit etc that I used when I changed my 1.9's front discs, if you fancy a hand doing them.

Are you aware that GSF have a branch in Northampton (apparently my closest branch)?
Their discs are cheaper as I said, so I don't know if you'd want to give them a bell, and see if you can return the stealer discs and save a bit of cash?

TehAgent · Post by **TehAgent** » 05 Apr 2007, 15:07

Yeah, i don't mind waiting, if your free. would be a great help. just going to check with GSF, will pop over as i have the use of my friends car.

will reply back here once i've been. it would be very much appreciated.

Xaccers · Post by **Xaccers** » 05 Apr 2007, 15:14

As Mr. Humphries would say; "I'm free"

f00lzz · Post by **f00lzz** » 05 Apr 2007, 15:19

Blimey what a rip off... this must be one of the easier jobs to do on the Xantia. My Brembo discs and pads from GSF are brilliant and so cheap that there really is no excuse for having bad brakes.....