1.9 td engine swap

Crinkle Cut Jasper · Post by **Crinkle Cut Jasper** » 23 May 2006, 20:33

Hi,

My timing belt snapped on my 1.9td Xantia recently

Its got 10 months MOT left on it so am considering doing an engine swap.

Has anyone got any tips/tricks when swapping the engine? Any help would be greatly appreciated

I have done a petrol engine in the dim & distant past but never a citroen diesel - What do i need to do with the hydraulics before the engine comes out?

Cheers

f00lzz · Post by **f00lzz** » 23 May 2006, 21:36

Easier to fix this one surely..... did mine recently

Crinkle Cut Jasper · Post by **Crinkle Cut Jasper** » 23 May 2006, 21:52

can u be bit more specific?

Do u mean a replacement head? What did u do to yours?

any help appreciated

AndersDK · Post by **AndersDK** » 23 May 2006, 22:49

You do have the alternative to repair the engine.

Considered the huge job it is to replace an engine - and tools/facilities necessary - it may well be more attractive to repair the engine.

You need :

new cambelt
headbolts set
headgasket
prooven good TD head

The unknown variable here is the cost of the TD head. A new or recon head will most likely be more than a good complete s/h engine. But still consider the amount of work involved.

Has the cam sheared in the head ?

Crinkle Cut Jasper · Post by **Crinkle Cut Jasper** » 23 May 2006, 23:37

Thanks anders,

The camshaft appears to be split in two.

Do you think that the pistons will be damaged?

Thats the reason why I was thinking about an engine swap. If its much simpler to do the head then I'd rather do that

jgra1 · Post by **jgra1** » 24 May 2006, 00:05

Jasper I have to agree, engine swap...
you can get a decent motor for £50-100 all in, and the job is a weekends work...

my feelng now after doing a couple of these would be to drop the engine down and lift the car off it with a hoist.

get the exhaust out of the way from the car, same with drive shafts ( remove from hubs) maybe even remove manifolds.

there are very few wires or pipes on these engine compared to petrol and modern engines

get rid of most ancilleries.

i am tipsy so forgive me

but, this shuold be quite straightforward....

John
ps if you need a good crane use mine, Sussex

f00lzz · Post by **f00lzz** » 24 May 2006, 08:11

AndersDK wrote:You do have the alternative to repair the engine.

Considered the huge job it is to replace an engine - and tools/facilities necessary - it may well be more attractive to repair the engine.

You need :

new cambelt
headbolts set
headgasket
prooven good TD head

The unknown variable here is the cost of the TD head. A new or recon head will most likely be more than a good complete s/h engine. But still consider the amount of work involved.

Has the cam sheared in the head ?

I agree! Even with a replacement engine... you still need a new timing belt/water pump/possible imminent HG failure. My head came back from Motorcast 01939 236000 like new for £180.0 ready to put back on, they even supplied all gaskets/bolts etc

f00lzz · Post by **f00lzz** » 24 May 2006, 09:44

However, if you decide to go down the replacement engine route.... I have one from a 'P' reg that is taking up space at the moment!! (complete with gearbox) if you are interested.

fastandfurryous · Post by **fastandfurryous** » 24 May 2006, 10:29

AndersDK wrote:You do have the alternative to repair the engine.

Considered the huge job it is to replace an engine - and tools/facilities necessary - it may well be more attractive to repair the engine.

Thing is, that to do that much repair work on the engine, it would be faster and easier to remove the engine to do it... I'll almost always pull the engine to do a TD head now... it saves an awful lot of skinned knuckles. Also means the cambelt change is 20 minutes rather than 4 hours.

f00lzz · Post by **f00lzz** » 24 May 2006, 10:45

fastandfurryous wrote: Thing is, that to do that much repair work on the engine, it would be faster and easier to remove the engine to do it... I'll almost always pull the engine to do a TD head now... it saves an awful lot of skinned knuckles. Also means the cambelt change is 20 minutes rather than 4 hours.

Good point... If I had the necessary equipment available I would definately consider whipping the engine out next time.... even just to save the wear and tear on my back! This is no small unit by the way.... 4 blokes struggle to lift my spare. Oh and I would certainly feel happier about setting things up (t/belt etc) with the engine on a bench.

andmcit · Post by **andmcit** » 24 May 2006, 13:25

f00lzz wrote:However, if you decide to go down the replacement engine route.... I have one from a 'P' reg that is taking up space at the moment!! (complete with gearbox) if you are interested.

hi f00lzz - IF the engine & box are for sale what mileage have they done, as I'd be interested?

Andrew

f00lzz · Post by **f00lzz** » 25 May 2006, 03:14

I was rold 120k when I bought it..... it came out of a runner

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