brake fluid

copetown · Post by **copetown** » 21 Apr 2006, 19:13

hi all
hope you chaps can help i have a xantia vsx td ,my problem is i took my beloved for a mot today the nice man could,nt find any problems all good so far, but as he backed my car out of the garage his foot went to the floor and on further inspection found brake fluid leaking out from behind the peddle (it failed) i took it home when i got home the mat is now covered in fluid any ideas
kind regards

AndersDK · Post by **AndersDK** » 21 Apr 2006, 19:36

Remember ! Your Xantia does NOT use brake fluid. But the special hydraulic fluid LHM or LHMplus.

IMHO it could be a mix of 2 problems :
1) the dreaded spring device between pedal and brake valve has jumped out allowing the pedal to go down
2) the rubber bulb on the brake valve has ruptured allowing for LHM fluid (on the system's low pressure side) to flow out and soak your mat

The rubber bulb can be replaced from inside the car. Its located exactly at end of the spring device. Its got a steel ring to locate inside the end of the brake valve. Once its replaced you re-fit the spriong device as it reside exactly on the rubber bulb.

Me thinks its not too bad letting your trusted garage do the job.

copetown · Post by **copetown** » 21 Apr 2006, 20:47

thanx for the fast response i now have a fighting chance to get my mot tomorrow the rubber bulb sounds probable thanx again

deian · Post by **deian** » 21 Apr 2006, 21:46

Damn, i though you were talking about the accelerator peddle there!

copetown · Post by **copetown** » 22 Apr 2006, 13:47

hi got in touch with the dealer he wants £300 new doser unit he said they dont do spares for the unit

Clogzz · Post by **Clogzz** » 22 Apr 2006, 14:44

Don't do spares ?
What's all this here then ?

Looks to me like we don't do cheapies.
That guy is just after the big, yummy £300 meal.

If I've got it right, all you need is the rubber boot:

Item 6: Brake protector - part Nº 95 640 067

AndersDK · Post by **AndersDK** » 22 Apr 2006, 16:02

CLOGZZ is right.

Parts are common at your dealer. If he wont help you - try another dealer - or make some member here help you with their own local dealer and post it for you. Thats what this forum community is here for !

You may need a new retainer ring for the rubber protector. This is Item 5 in the drawing above kindly submitted by CLOGZZ. The rubber bulb (protector) is Item 6.
Donno what has caused your pedal going low, but you can see the pedal lock rod and its retainer clip above as Item 3 & Item 11.
It might simply be the retainer clip which has snapped off and the lock rod is then messing around down on/between your carpets & mats.

These parts are so cheap that you dont even have to think about it :

Item 11 - 2438.05 - RETAINING CLIP - 10,15
Item 3 - 4533.14 - BRAKE PEDAL PUSH-ROD PIN - 6,80
Item 5 - 5.424.455 BRAKE CONTROL-UNIT RING - 65,35
Item 6 - 95.640.067 BRAKE CONTROL UNIT PROTECTOR - 84,35

Prices in Dkr ex vat. Divide by 11 and you get the UK£ price ex vat.
As you can see its close to UK£15 +vat.
Not even close to a £300 meal on you

copetown · Post by **copetown** » 22 Apr 2006, 21:01

the drawing is exactly what came up on his computer i even pointed out the item i wanted but he claimed they only sell the unit whole nice eh ,

anyway i went over to the local scrapie this afternoon he had a xantia just come in asked for a price and he said a tenner if i take it off sweet eh the car had only 21,000 on the clock so i figured must be ok all seems well now just got to test it the wifes nipped out for some fluid for me, might leave some work for tomorrow what a pig they are to fit though dont think i will be going back to the dealer again though
thank you all for the help and i will keep you posted
kind regards kevin

fastandfurryous · Post by **fastandfurryous** » 22 Apr 2006, 21:24

copetown wrote:the drawing is exactly what came up on his computer i even pointed out the item i wanted but he claimed they only sell the unit whole nice eh

Your dealer is a Lieing lieing lieing liar.

I've bought parts for a dosieur valve before, and other people on here have bought parts for them. If it has a citroen part number, then it can be bought on it's own.

Most likely that your dealer only had a complete valve in stock, and would have had to order in the parts, and couldn't be bothered for the tenner it would cost.

Homer · Post by **Homer** » 23 Apr 2006, 20:48

AndersDK wrote:CLOGZZ is right.

Parts are common at your dealer. If he wont help you - try another dealer - or make some member here help you with their own local dealer and post it for you.

Or take the part number to a Peugeot dealer.

fastandfurryous · Post by **fastandfurryous** » 23 Apr 2006, 21:09

Homer wrote:Or take the part number to a Peugeot dealer.

This only works for parts that are common between Pug and Cit models.

Peugeots don't use Dosieur valves!