National tyres Oil change offer

Garysz · Post by **Garysz** » 20 Apr 2006, 18:15

National Tyres are doing an oil change and filter for £15 (+£1 for oil disposal). Only thing is the local depot in Winchester is proposing to do it with the same Duckhams oil as they did my petrol car, I now have an HDi diesel.

Do you really need diesel engine oil for diesel cars?

Post by **Harlequin** » 20 Apr 2006, 18:44

err yes you do - the oil for a diesel is different than for a petrol

Richard Gallagher · Post by **Richard Gallagher** » 20 Apr 2006, 18:58

HDI's have longer service intervals than older XUD engine's due to using different oil filters and fully synthetic oil, the choice is yours!

howiedean · Post by **howiedean** » 20 Apr 2006, 19:02

Harlequin wrote:err yes you do - the oil for a diesel is different than for a petrol

I'd check the oil specs and as long as it's compatable then go for it.
I've used their fully synthetic oil in all of my current and previous cars and have had no problems. £20 for fully synthetic oil and filter change is very good, oh and you can change it more often as it's sooo cheap.

Regards

BonceChops · Post by **BonceChops** » 20 Apr 2006, 19:03

Garysz wrote:(+£1 for oil disposal)

I would not be surprised if the old oil was taken away for nothing

citronut · Post by **citronut** » 20 Apr 2006, 19:23

most moden oils are universal,even more so are the semi and fully synthetics,the only prob with going to any of the big tyre and exhaust centers for anything is they will more than likly tell you when you collect your car that they have checked it all through and found hundreds of pounds worth of work that needs doing,and your car is unsafe
regards malcolm

Barbarian · Post by **Barbarian** » 20 Apr 2006, 22:36

Harlequin wrote:err yes you do - the oil for a diesel is different than for a petrol

Absolute rubbish mate, oil is oil as long as it meets the specs for your engine its fine, for an XUD 9 its CD 4 i think and most 10w 40 part synth meets this, They just make out that you need different oil for diesel cars so they can charge more for the oil, they add a couple of adatives and make out it justifys a big price hike!

AndersDK · Post by **AndersDK** » 20 Apr 2006, 23:43

Even "old fashion" pure mineral oils meets the spec for HDI's no problem. As it has done for diesel turbo's for long now.

Remember : no matter what kind/make/type/brand of oil you pour into the engine - it can not prevent combustion residues - as it does not do anything to the combustion process.
This means that your precious 5 star gold rated 0w50 hoppergrade synt oil carries as much residues - as does your standard mineral 10w40 oil - around in your engine.

wheeler · Post by **wheeler** » 21 Apr 2006, 00:07

BonceChops wrote:
Garysz wrote:(+£1 for oil disposal)
I would not be surprised if the old oil was taken away for nothing

No chance,all garages must keep receipts & records of where the waste oil's go

rabenson · Post by **rabenson** » 21 Apr 2006, 08:54

There is no way that they are using fully synthetic at that price! (not that I'm advocating fully synthetic - semi synthetic works fine in my HDI!)

Ron

Post by **martyhopkirk** » 21 Apr 2006, 09:16

Richard Gallagher wrote:HDI's have longer service intervals than older XUD engine's due to using different oil filters and fully synthetic oil, the choice is yours!

Really - I use Total Quartz 7000 Semi and do an oil & filter change every 6K for what it costs. (I buy the oil in bulk) works out at aboyt £12 per oil change. Money well spent IMHO

howiedean · Post by **howiedean** » 21 Apr 2006, 10:35

rabenson wrote:There is no way that they are using fully synthetic at that price! (not that I'm advocating fully synthetic - semi synthetic works fine in my HDI!)

Ron

Yes they do if you go for the £20 job. I can't remember the stuff they are using but I've checked before, although you might want to check that they do actually take the oil from the right barrel before putting it your car!!!

There are a few companies in the UK where you can buy cheap fully synthetic. I've used Ovoline in Lincoln and I used to buy FS oil at £12 for 4 litres.
Mobile 1 seems to be very overpriced when you look into it all you have to do is check the oil specs and compare.

Regards

fastandfurryous · Post by **fastandfurryous** » 21 Apr 2006, 10:45

howiedean wrote:There are a few companies in the UK where you can buy cheap fully synthetic. I've used Ovoline in Lincoln and I used to buy FS oil at £12 for 4 litres.

But, for a garage to be able to actually do the oil change, and supply a filter too, all for £16 (or even £20) there's no way they're going to be using this oil.

It will be a super-cheap bought-by-the-barrel semi-synth, or a reasonable mineral oil. (also bought by the barrel, which is a lot cheaper than you can buy in shops)

I have to say though... I don't see the point in expensive semi- or fully-synthetic oils. I use a quality mineral oil, bought by the barrel for under £1 a litre, and change it every 5k miles, no matter what the car, or what the recommended interval is.

Far better to have clean oil, and a new filter more often than to have super-expensive oil that's full of deposits from being in the sump for 10k miles.

Plus, if you're under the car every 5k, you're more likely to spot if anything is wrong.

deian · Post by **deian** » 21 Apr 2006, 12:11

My cup of tea...

Ok, so we may end up paying more for oil from halfords, but seriously now, paying a 'professional' to do an oil change?? C'mon guys, we all have good cars here, and we all know a bit about what we have (or we wouldn't be here right) and we share what we learn. So why pay someone else for the potential of making a mistake? Better do it yourself.

I'd never go to a professional if I can avoid it, to me, the only person good enough to do my car is myself because I will take more care of it.

Sometimes you have to go to a professional because they 'may' have more knowledge and the proper tools and facilities to do the job (i.e tyre changers, 4 post lifts, welders, diagnostic tools etc). But I believe any person can know just as much as the professionals, more if they're geeky enthusiast like many of us are here. Difference being the professionals have nice certificates, better tools, and get paid to make mistakes and con you for big parts. I don't trust trade mechanics at all. Better to do it yourself or if you know an enthusiast that does it by hobby.

mezuk04 · Post by **mezuk04** » 21 Apr 2006, 13:05

Practice makes perfect and confidence.

My first 5k service on my zx took probably about 2 hours

I really had no previous experience working on my cars apart from a CV boot change on the ZX Reflex which i just assisted my mate

Now I can do a servcie on the Zx Temptation in less than 30 mins and so to the Xantia!!!!

Its cheaper doing it this way and gives a lot more satisfaction with a job well done.

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