Does it really help cleaning injectors , boosting octane and lubricating fuel pumps ?
Is it worth it
If it is which brand is worth it..........??
Diesel Fuel Additive
Moderator: RichardW
Diesel Fuel Additive
2013 Berlingo Multispace 1.6 XTR 115bhp
2003 2:0 HDI Dispatch Van 186000 miles......gone
2000 Xantia Hdi 90bhp Forte Estate 97000 miles gone..........to heaven
New High pressure Fuel Pump and Patched ECU , Blower Module fixed by CitroJim
2003 2:0 HDI Dispatch Van 186000 miles......gone
2000 Xantia Hdi 90bhp Forte Estate 97000 miles gone..........to heaven
New High pressure Fuel Pump and Patched ECU , Blower Module fixed by CitroJim
I tried Fortes in both my diesel, and Jeans old mazda about two years ago..
The effect on my diesel was not noticeable, but the car was running very well anyway.. Cooking oil has a bigger effect, deeper quieter engine note, and is noticebly quicker, top speed is not effected though..
The effect of Fortes on the petrol 1600 16V fi Mazda was quite dramatic, it immediately cured the rough tickover the car had, (caused by sticky valves I think).. And overal the car performed much better afterwards..
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The effect on my diesel was not noticeable, but the car was running very well anyway.. Cooking oil has a bigger effect, deeper quieter engine note, and is noticebly quicker, top speed is not effected though..
The effect of Fortes on the petrol 1600 16V fi Mazda was quite dramatic, it immediately cured the rough tickover the car had, (caused by sticky valves I think).. And overal the car performed much better afterwards..
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James. (Nr M67 East of Manchester).
Dark Blue ZX 1.9D Auto 1994 'L' 5 dr (modified) Aura. 98K miles used daily. Ave mpg 40
Wedgewood Blue 75 CTD auto Connoissaur. 2002. 144k. used daily. ave mpg 40 ish.
Dark Blue ZX 1.9D Auto 1994 'L' 5 dr (modified) Aura. 98K miles used daily. Ave mpg 40
Wedgewood Blue 75 CTD auto Connoissaur. 2002. 144k. used daily. ave mpg 40 ish.
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After years of buying additives - I came across a site in USA that tested loads of them.
Rather amusingly - the largest component in the additive - was KEROSENE!!!!
Another component in some was WATER!!! (In small doses).
In the vast majority there was very little that actually did any good!!!!
No wonder they produce less smoke if you put two cans of mainly Kersoene in a low tank and go for a MOT - it burns cleaner!!!!! So the smoke test is 'fooled' as you are not running on Diesel!!!!!
Forte does seem to work well - and I have just put 2 pots in my XM with 15L of fuel.
One of the ways that it is supposed to work is by increasing the combustion temp in the combustion chamber - and so burning off carbon deposits. Maybe that's why they seem to work well if you add two cans before a fill up and a long journey down the motorway.
I've always bought Redex - and put a bit in the tank.
I don't think it has a noticeable effect - but it will help lubricate the fuel pump and injectors - and that is VERY important in todays'c climate of low sulphur diesel.
I've seen loads of pumps worn out on cars and vans due to today's low lubricant diesels.
So if you want to keep the repair man away - a dose of lubricant at every fill up is cheap insurance.
I have also had good results with Protec diesel additive.
My local Jaguar Garage has a machine that allows the cars to be run on pure Forte fuel injection cleaner - for petrol cars. I'll ask if they do it for diesels too. Jaguar recommend it for cleaning the injectors, combustion chamber and cats.
HOwever - the diesel specialists that I use - who rebuild diesel pumps and injectors don't rate additives as a solution. They are OK to maintain a vehicle - but if it's worn - no amount of additive will help.
I have found that removing the injectors, and fitting new tips inside the injectors makes a huge difference. Economy increases as the diesel is better atomised. Less black smoke too!!!
I was shocked at the 'new' noise my VW truck engine was making after new injector tips!!!
When I complained - the oldest mechanic put his head over the engine - and told me that the high metallic pinging sound I could now hera was the injectors 'pinging off' - and that is how they are supposed to be!!!! A clean sharp ping!!!!
My XM will be in for new injector tips once I have everything else sorted.
Rather amusingly - the largest component in the additive - was KEROSENE!!!!
Another component in some was WATER!!! (In small doses).
In the vast majority there was very little that actually did any good!!!!
No wonder they produce less smoke if you put two cans of mainly Kersoene in a low tank and go for a MOT - it burns cleaner!!!!! So the smoke test is 'fooled' as you are not running on Diesel!!!!!
Forte does seem to work well - and I have just put 2 pots in my XM with 15L of fuel.
One of the ways that it is supposed to work is by increasing the combustion temp in the combustion chamber - and so burning off carbon deposits. Maybe that's why they seem to work well if you add two cans before a fill up and a long journey down the motorway.
I've always bought Redex - and put a bit in the tank.
I don't think it has a noticeable effect - but it will help lubricate the fuel pump and injectors - and that is VERY important in todays'c climate of low sulphur diesel.
I've seen loads of pumps worn out on cars and vans due to today's low lubricant diesels.
So if you want to keep the repair man away - a dose of lubricant at every fill up is cheap insurance.
I have also had good results with Protec diesel additive.
My local Jaguar Garage has a machine that allows the cars to be run on pure Forte fuel injection cleaner - for petrol cars. I'll ask if they do it for diesels too. Jaguar recommend it for cleaning the injectors, combustion chamber and cats.
HOwever - the diesel specialists that I use - who rebuild diesel pumps and injectors don't rate additives as a solution. They are OK to maintain a vehicle - but if it's worn - no amount of additive will help.
I have found that removing the injectors, and fitting new tips inside the injectors makes a huge difference. Economy increases as the diesel is better atomised. Less black smoke too!!!
I was shocked at the 'new' noise my VW truck engine was making after new injector tips!!!
When I complained - the oldest mechanic put his head over the engine - and told me that the high metallic pinging sound I could now hera was the injectors 'pinging off' - and that is how they are supposed to be!!!! A clean sharp ping!!!!
My XM will be in for new injector tips once I have everything else sorted.
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Miller's Diesel Power Plus, used to be called Dieselclean IIRCwhitehartbookss wrote:Miller's Diesel additive seems to come out well in tests.
I tried to buy direct from them in bulk a few years ago - but got a deal with Protec in the end off my local Partco at a wonderful price.
I remember the first time I used it (on a previous Xant which had done about 50K) there was a noticable difference, less so later. I squidge some in every 3 or 4 tankfulls. I stopped buying the 500ml bottles (at £7.50 ish ) when I spooted a 5l can in my local Wilco for £30-odd
Alan
'98 Xantia TD SX 123K - Gone! - Now a Citroen-free zone
Wanted another Hydro Cit, didn't want a C5, can't afford a C6..... Yet
Wanted another Hydro Cit, didn't want a C5, can't afford a C6..... Yet