Dying Citroen

HaydnR · Post by **HaydnR** » 22 Feb 2005, 17:56

Juat made a few phone calls, a replacement clutch for a Xantia hdi £300 from Mr clutch but apparently they use recon clutches and there are some horror stories Citroen near me quoted £900, peugeot xpress fit was £400 this maybe worthwhile. The vehicle quoted was a 99 xantia hdi 110.
If you replaced the vehicle how much life would be left in the clutch in that and what else may need doing? Even though the price of a clutch change maybe half the value of the car at the end of the day they are consumables. We fork out £400 a year on insurance and what do we get for that, a piece of paper.

oilyspanner · Post by **oilyspanner** » 22 Feb 2005, 18:35

The host of this forum will do a Xantia TD clutch kit for under £100, this will be oem quality rather than remanufactured (which I have seen fail prematurely) the replacement of the clutch is exactly the same procedure as for example a pug 406 with the exception of unbolting the PR from the gearbox, the point at which non cit mechanics come unstuck sometimes it in dismantling unneccesarily components in this area, axle stands, a trolley jack and reasonable tools should see the job done over a weekend, especially if a friend will help with the heavy bits, go for it. Its only a wear part
Stewart

ripsaw82 · Post by **ripsaw82** » 22 Feb 2005, 21:14

How much? I got a new clutch in my 2.0i Xantia for £220.

crapday · Post by **crapday** » 22 Feb 2005, 21:29

I got a new clutch fitted and guaranteed for 3 years unlimited warranty for £260 on my xantia 1.9TD

Robin · Post by **Robin** » 22 Feb 2005, 21:48

OK so we have a range from a little over £200 to near astronomic.
Name the cheaper garages and it would be worthwhile driving to them just to get the job done. The more we can use them the better they should become. Assuming no one has any complaints abut bad workmanship of course.
My Cit approved repairer is in St Ives, Cambs but at £586 he is not low cost in any way.
So come on chaps, name the cheapies and lets use them! Robin

druist · Post by **druist** » 22 Feb 2005, 22:20

anyone know how long, on average it should take, eg what are the labour costs and what are the part(s)?
I dont know if i made it clear but it is diesel.

HaydnR · Post by **HaydnR** » 22 Feb 2005, 22:34

On a hdi they were quoting 8-9 hours. Citroen in the south west london area charge £75 per hour smaller garages charge £50 per hour.
N18920 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA 1.6/1.8 8V 65.00 Add
N18928 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA DIESEL (NOT TD) 65.00 Add
N18928L CLUTCH KIT-LUK LUK VERSION OF N18928 59.00 Add
N18957 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA HDi 90 BHP 82.00 Add
N18961 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA 1.8 16v RP 7729> (1/98>) 73.50 Add
N18964 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA 2.0 16V 87.50 Add
N18966 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA 1.9TD 82.00 Add
N18968 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA 2.1 TD 115.00 Add
N18968 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA HDi 110 BHP 115.00 Add
N18970 CLUTCH KIT XANTIA 2.0 8V 83.50
Please tell where these cheaper garages are.

Robin · Post by **Robin** » 22 Feb 2005, 23:27

My local Approved Repairer quoted 7.5 hours for a 98 Xantia TD. The clutch kit, driven plate, pressure plate and release bearing would be genuine Cit at £120 plus labour at £50/hour, £375 so £581 including VAT.
I will call Pleiades next and then a local guy I know for comparison. Answers to follow. Robin

druist · Post by **druist** » 24 Feb 2005, 15:09

best quote so far is 300 quid, though i think this chap is just one man outfit. Seems as though every where else is 500 quid due to the amount of work - upto 9 hrs. Anyone know why it takes so long to do a clutch in TDS xantia diesel?

oilyspanner · Post by **oilyspanner** » 24 Feb 2005, 15:18

Theres just a lot of it, driveshafts removed, regulators removed, undertrays etc it all takes time, later Xants have a lot of plastic parts under the airbox and wheelarches which all need removal before you can see the job.
Stewart

weety · Post by **weety** » 27 Feb 2005, 05:52

i got a clutch put in my TD by a local citroen specialist for £350,
i actualy did one once and never ever again..... i dont know if there is a cunning trick for lining the gearbox up with what would be the thrust bearing on a normal clutch, but two of us spent at least two hours trying to do just that

joe_405TD · Post by **joe_405TD** » 28 Feb 2005, 05:01

The engine in you car should be worth £150 upwards if it is good so if you scrap it sell the engine first as its hard to get hold of a good 1.9td...i know took me two weeks to find one ringing around everywhere.
As for the clutch...its a nasty job and if you have not done similar thigs before it is a difficult time consuming job.
the clutch kit for the 1.9 td is also expansive, ive done two on previous occasions the first i paid £100 for a local parts supplier and this was for a VALEO clutch which is the one they come with.
The next i found on ebay for £60 including postage, they are hard to find and are not on oftern but are much cheaper.
If you are off to a garageyou should pay no more than £250 as i got quoted a bit less than this from a cluch specialist.
Joe