Late Xantia Immob - help please.

David W · Post by **David W** » 18 Nov 2004, 15:27

Guys,
Anyone with a later Xantia 1998/9 who knows (or could look in their handbook) if it is possible to cancel the alarm manually if it's sounding and you have a key to get in the car.
Sadly my folks have had a set of keys for theirs stolen so Dad is getting Citroen to replace/recode his key/plip/Immob.
However Dad thinks there is no point in changing the actual door/steering locks and keys as he says if "they" tried to get in it would sound the alarm.
Now on the older Xantias as long as you have the key to put in the ign you can silence the alarm. Even if they can't drive his away because the immob code has been changed do you think they can turn the alarm off.
Apart from the obvious point that they could get into his car easily with the keys and quickly pinch anything from inside can you think of any way that his less than complete solution is leaving him open to losing the car?
For info his car is parked in the open on a parking space outside of his garden boundary...and they live on the edge of a "bad boys" estate where no doubt someone will be wandering about with his keys looking for an opportunity!
David

beezer · Post by **beezer** » 18 Nov 2004, 15:48

Keep a rotweiller in the back seat?

Panjandrum · Post by **Panjandrum** » 18 Nov 2004, 15:56

On my late '97 Activa if I open the door with the key, press the dash button and turn on the ignition - all within a short time like 10 seconds - the alarm will stop. Not easy with that noise going on, but possible.
It was round about 97/98 that the alarm system changed, there was no longer a key-operated alarm deactivating switch under the bonnet, and they did away with the keypad immobiliser.
PJ

beezer · Post by **beezer** » 18 Nov 2004, 16:00

Sorry, wasn't being flippant but it would be silly not to change the locks. Alarms don't prevent neds from getting in and doing damage to whatever they can.

David W · Post by **David W** » 18 Nov 2004, 16:10

Yep this is the latest type of immopb/alarm with a key transponder and no keypad...I'm not that familiar with its operation.
Beezer your comment accepted in the spirit was made...trouble is the folks only have a 10" high dog...its the "boys" who have the Rottys!
I do think he is mad not changing the door locks at least. This will be a local job and if they can't start the car they will probably damage it somehow out of spite.
I expect its multi CD changer will be on EBay before long!
David

Kowalski · Post by **Kowalski** » 18 Nov 2004, 16:14

People steal keys to steal cars. Why didn't the car get stolen when the keys went? Was it just the spare keys that got stolen i.e. the car wasn't there?
DJ Woolard is probably right about the neds damaging the car out of spite, if they can't steal it because of an alarm / imob they'll smash all sorts of expensive bits trying to hot wire it or to bypass the imob.

DarkendViper · Post by **DarkendViper** » 18 Nov 2004, 17:25

I would definately get the locks changed. If the insurers found out the the keys had been stolen that would give them a clause that could mean they don't have to pay out.

David W · Post by **David W** » 18 Nov 2004, 18:00

Update: Apparently the insurance company are covering the theft of vehicle keys and are insisting on the full lock set and plip/immob being replaced/recoded....about £500 in all!
David

beezer · Post by **beezer** » 18 Nov 2004, 18:04

Ouch!

David W · Post by **David W** » 18 Nov 2004, 18:10

Ouch is right, but I didn't make it clear they are paying for it all under the theft of keys part of the policy....but when next year's renewal comes they be clawing it back no doubt!
David