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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Stonehopper » 15 Oct 2016, 15:45

Got it - thighs - sorry - thanks . . .
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by myglaren » 15 Oct 2016, 16:11

Stonehopper wrote:Got it - thighs - sorry - thanks . . .

:mrgreen:

It is her guitar playing you are supposed to pay attention to, not the legs!

Hard to avoid though :)
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by macplaxton » 16 Oct 2016, 00:02

myglaren wrote:instead of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7wPH-sbGg
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then enclose it in the YouTube tags:

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(broken her for demonstration purposes) that's what the "Code" tags are for



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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Stickyfinger » 16 Oct 2016, 02:51

Go Go Ray's drumming is micro second perfect all the way ....fantastic

More Ladies plucking

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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by myglaren » 16 Oct 2016, 09:21

Samantha often plays with those sisters - Sadie was only 16 there!
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Gsbx1220 » 18 Oct 2016, 07:42

Hello

New here, but I was a member years ago when I had Xantias. It was that long ago that I have forgot my original login, so rejoined.

I have a GS Pallas and this is something that I am considering doing. as mentioned above, the cassette points are quite troublesome and require adjustment on mine fairly frequently.

I looked into a few options, but as yet took one up. The original plan was to get an electronic system from. GSA, but have not found parts yet and would be wary of secondhand parts as dizzy could be worn.
Looked at the various kits that fit inside The dizzy, but no one makes a kit that fits inside the SEV Marchal dizzy. Looked at the 123 system as the DS guys rave about them. Again, 123 do not make one for this application. However, there is a company that convert 123 to any application, but that is way way expensive.

This brings the Lumenition to the front. It will be interesting to see how your system goes. Lumenition do two types. Standard and performance. From my research, the standard system will not give a more powerful spark as it does not use a low resistance coil. The only benefit this has is you no longer have points.
The performance will as it looks like the electronics in this can drive a 1.5 ohm coil giving a bigger voltage on the secondary. This now has 2 benefits, no points giving more accurate timing at higher rpm & bigger spark giving better combustion and less plug fouling.

However, this is a GS after all, so how important this is, who knows!
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Stonehopper » 18 Oct 2016, 19:17

Hi, go back my first post on page 1 and the link will take you to the the set I have fitted. It comes with the low resistance 1.5 Ohm coil with ballast which replaced my 3 Ohm coil (with no ballast). The plastic bits that fit inside the distributor are extra, but can usually be got for around £20. The fitting kit (plastic bits) are FK827 available from Green Spark Plug Co. :http://www.gsparkplug.com/lumenition-fitting-kits-fk827-sev-marchal-gt-cassette.html

Is it worth it? Ease of starting, smoother response, fit - set- and (pretty much) forget. For some maybe not. So far only done 60 miles with it, so time will see how it performs. Still on the standard plug gaps for now.
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by white exec » 18 Oct 2016, 20:18

Doing away with the mechanical contact breaker is a major step forward in itself.

The old low resistance "6-volt" coils, with an accompanying resistor, were brewed up simply to provide a decent spark whilst cranking the engine, when the battery voltage can plummet. A simple cable from starter circuit to ignition coil by-passed the resistor, thus feeding available battery voltage direct to the coil during cranking.

Good electronic ignition overcomes all these issues, by
- doing away with mechanical points, and attendant timing and performance drift
- providing a regulated voltage feed to the coil, irrespective of the dip in battery voltage when starting
- feeding the coil with a high-frequency input, which makes the inductive step-up of the coil much more efficient

Lumenition, and inductive pick-up (Hall effect, proximity sensor) systems are the best to go for.
The former has a had high reputation over several decades.
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Gsbx1220 » 18 Oct 2016, 21:53

It looks as if I will fit Lumenition..

From your opening post I seen what system that you chose. I just wonder how much difference that the performance system will make. The coil primary on this has a resistance of .75 Ohms.

Anything that gets rid of the unreliable points is a bonus. However, I have never had any starting issues just the constant adjustment and the timing scatter issue that you seen at the advance setting.

I'm sure that your car will be much smoother to drive. I just need to get my car back as it's getting painted just now!
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Stonehopper » 19 Oct 2016, 08:55

Cumbernauld - I've stopped a few times at Old Inns, Castlecary, for fuel heading North! Family in Badenoch.
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Gsbx1220 » 19 Oct 2016, 13:00

M80 / A80 one of the busiest roads in Scotland as it is the main Glasgow - Stirling route. Also, most traffic heading north of central belt takes this route.

I'm not far from Old Inns
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Gsbx1220 » 15 Jan 2017, 22:33

Hi

How has your Lumenition system been?
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Stonehopper » 16 Jan 2017, 11:46

Very good. Starts easily in the damp and cold (lives outside), no noticeable improvement in fuel consumption though. Running at standard plug gaps. Not a great deal of mileage covered since fitting, maybe 600 miles. She'll be taking us up to the Highlands end of April.
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Gsbx1220 » 18 Jan 2017, 08:44

Hi

Good to read that it's working out well. I'm pretty sure that I will go down that route. Just need to Getty he thing back on the road which should be sooner rather than later.

If you are stopping off at Old Inns for fuel, providing I'm around at the time I can call by and let you see my GS.
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Re: Electronic ignition

Post by Stonehopper » 01 May 2017, 11:55

Back from a trip to Kincraig. Stonked up the road with four on board and a boot stuffed to the gills maintaining 67 - 75mph most of the way. Never missed a beat. Started easily under the five inches of snow that fell on Monday. Inverness and Loch Ness, down to Spean Bridge and Laggan. Magic carpet ride. Around five tankfulls of juice used in all, averaged 33.5mpg all round.

The snow cleared by Wednesday.

Sorry I didn't get in touch Richard, a car full of aching limbs wanted the destination achieved!! Nice images of yours though elsewhere - well done.
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