Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
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Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
Looking for the vacuum advance module, or a full dizzy in good working order for a GS 1299 motor asap.
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Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
What's the old one: SEV or Ducellier?
I know I don't have a whole one for a 1299cc (G13/625)
Notes say:
SEV Marchal 41301502, A401, GA8, GD4, 24, 2500,
Ducellier 525073(C), GA8, GD4, 24, 2500
There's a possibility I might have a GD4 vacuum advance wotsit.
I know I don't have a whole one for a 1299cc (G13/625)
Notes say:
SEV Marchal 41301502, A401, GA8, GD4, 24, 2500,
Ducellier 525073(C), GA8, GD4, 24, 2500
There's a possibility I might have a GD4 vacuum advance wotsit.
Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
I'll find out for you shortly and let you know Much appreciated..
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It's a Ducellier.. what model, we don't know yet..
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Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
Having Googled the number I put at the top, it appears these have a physically different vacuum casing, that clips in one side and screws in the other (Rather than screws both sides to the body).
Next question. Is the vacuum capsule definitely shot? I ask because I've just read over on a R4 forum http://www.renault4.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3507" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and Googled some pictures (and found my very own )
Vacuum advance 1 by macplaxton, on Flickr
There's a tiny hole in the can, and it needs covering before doing a test....
Next question. Is the vacuum capsule definitely shot? I ask because I've just read over on a R4 forum http://www.renault4.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=3507" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and Googled some pictures (and found my very own )
Vacuum advance 1 by macplaxton, on Flickr
There's a tiny hole in the can, and it needs covering before doing a test....
Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
so is the one on you G electronic ignition,
i do have a plastic container full of GS/a DIZZY's, about a year or so back i went through them all checking general condition visually,
and model No.'s
and testing the vac capsules operated under vac/suction pressure,
i will see if i can find the notes and or check through them againg
i do have a plastic container full of GS/a DIZZY's, about a year or so back i went through them all checking general condition visually,
and model No.'s
and testing the vac capsules operated under vac/suction pressure,
i will see if i can find the notes and or check through them againg
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
If diaphragm has gone and mega urgent, there is always the option of carefully de-swaging the capsule and replacing the diaphragm with a portion of chopped up bicycle inner tube....
I'll find that link again later.
I'll find that link again later.
Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
or just pull the pipe off the capsule and plug the pipe, it wont make a lot of difference to how it runsmacplaxton wrote:If diaphragm has gone and mega urgent, there is always the option of carefully de-swaging the capsule and replacing the diaphragm with a portion of chopped up bicycle inner tube....
I'll find that link again later.
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
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Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
Oh no Malcolm, surely you can't be advocating wasting petrol?
Anyway, here's the link to the bicycle inner tube fix: http://matra-sports.forumdediscussions. ... d-allumeur" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Anyway, here's the link to the bicycle inner tube fix: http://matra-sports.forumdediscussions. ... d-allumeur" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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of course not Max , just until you happen to stumble over a bicycle parking lot ,macplaxton wrote:Oh no Malcolm, surely you can't be advocating wasting petrol?
Anyway, here's the link to the bicycle inner tube fix: http://matra-sports.forumdediscussions. ... d-allumeur" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
The dizzy is a ducellier 4451a
Or a duceller 525 073
Or a duceller 525 073
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so why the two different model No.'s Mike
Regards, malcolm.
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
This is just info I'm passing on from my bro up North (who I believe you've sent bits to in the past!). Those are the numbers stamped on the dizzy..
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Re: Dizzy or Vacuum Advance needed
@Malcolm
I think the 4451A is the body part number or something. 525 073 is the number given to the whole thing.
e.g.
Ducellier case 2 by macplaxton, on Flickr
As you can see from the pic, 4431A is to the right. The GD4, GD1 is the mechanical advance curve spec followed by the vacuum advance spec.
But I think the 4451A has a physically different vacuum can attachment of clip over one side, screw in body the other, rather than two screws like the one I posted previously.
I think the 4451A is the body part number or something. 525 073 is the number given to the whole thing.
e.g.
Ducellier case 2 by macplaxton, on Flickr
As you can see from the pic, 4431A is to the right. The GD4, GD1 is the mechanical advance curve spec followed by the vacuum advance spec.
But I think the 4451A has a physically different vacuum can attachment of clip over one side, screw in body the other, rather than two screws like the one I posted previously.