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Post by Citroenmad » 09 Jun 2011, 20:27

Following on from this thread and the link in it ...

Only 143 Citroen Xantia Activas known to be around in 2010, thats a much lower number than I had thought. :(


Kind of proves the point that if your putting off getting an Activa but would really like on, your chances are getting very slim.

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Post by Deanxm » 09 Jun 2011, 20:53

It makes me wonder if the Activa will go the way of the 4 wheel drive BX in that everyone runs a mile from them, whatever happens i think we can safely say the bottom of the market has been reached.

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Post by Toby_HDi » 09 Jun 2011, 20:58

Citroenmad wrote:Following on from this thread and the link in it ...

Only 143 Citroën Xantia Activas known to be around in 2010, thats a much lower number than I had thought. :(


Kind of proves the point that if your putting off getting an Activa but would really like on, your chances are getting very slim.
:shock: 143?! As low as that?

Wonder how many are S2....

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Post by bxzx16v » 09 Jun 2011, 21:07

Got some figures for the Zx16v from the SMMT , and they are 77 on the road and 43 sorned ,

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Post by Citroenmad » 09 Jun 2011, 21:08

I think you might be right, that is a very low figure and quite worrying really.

I had a figure of a minimum of 300 left in my head, as a rough guess, so thats half what I was thinking.

Very very few people really know what an Activa is and I think this is one of the main problems. I mean yes economy is not great but many cars are similar, look at a Merc C180 Auto and your going to be getting similar MPG figures. The mechanicals are pretty much DIY and most of the problem areas have been sussed (largely thanks to our resident Xantia guru!).

They certainly can't get any cheaper or we will be giving them away or even paying for someone to take them!

It has got me thinking now, just how much of a shame it is to see the odd few being broken, still, its going to happen until even fewer remain. I guess the scrappage scheme has not helped their numbers.

There are 11 BX 4x4s listed on that website, maybe the picture of Activa figures in 5 years time? :(

In that case, my Activa might well have to be a keeper.

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Post by Deanxm » 09 Jun 2011, 21:16

In that case, my Activa might well have to be a keeper.
Its always the performance trim level that makes the money as they are super rare ,the activa will no doubt be the same, its all to do with rarety isnt it.
I may be able to get a 40' container and if i do im putting a dehumidifier in it and my Activa.
I just am not selling it for £300 or £400 with a long mot, new clutch, stainless exhaust, new matrix etc etc, i would rather tuck her away to enjoy another day tbh

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Post by bxzx16v » 09 Jun 2011, 21:17

Keep the activa , someone gave me a 2000 (V) activa in late 2006 which had been stood for getting on for a year , it had a few issues but would have made a nice one , sadly I didn't have the funds or storage so it had to go , M&M Citroën specialists at holmfirth didn't even want it as they had two they were contemplating on breaking , in the end I got £170 for it , just wish I had it now :cry:

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Post by Citroenmad » 09 Jun 2011, 21:23

Well, ive found some more info (simple if you click on the cars name :roll:):

2010 Licenced SORN
Q4 100 49
Q3 114 51
Q2 126 52
Q1 143 49

Figures for 2010 with the year quarters. 149 left known, both licensed and on SORN.

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Post by Deanxm » 09 Jun 2011, 21:28

Is that right, 43 cars lost in one year :shock: almost 1/3 of Activas died in 2010, thats scary.

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Post by Citroenmad » 09 Jun 2011, 21:32

Deanxm wrote:Is that right, 43 cars lost in one year :shock: almost 1/3 of Activas died in 2010, thats scary.

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Scrappage was on though ... :(

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Post by Deanxm » 09 Jun 2011, 21:35

yeah but still, i think the remaining number will have to fall by around 70% before they are worth anything

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Post by Citroenmad » 09 Jun 2011, 21:50

Deanxm wrote:
In that case, my Activa might well have to be a keeper.
Its always the performance trim level that makes the money as they are super rare ,the activa will no doubt be the same, its all to do with rarety isnt it.
I may be able to get a 40' container and if i do im putting a dehumidifier in it and my Activa.
I just am not selling it for £300 or £400 with a long mot, new clutch, stainless exhaust, new matrix etc etc, i would rather tuck her away to enjoy another day tbh

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Ill certainly need to preserve mine and get it in as good condition as possible should I keep it, which I no doubt will do. With a similar thinking to your above thoughts Dean.

It would be nice to keep it and sell it on for a good amount, but thats not why I bought one and should it happen it won't for a good while yet. They should rise in value as they get older and even less in their numbers, as they will become collectible to the right people.

I know the rare models of very previous Citroens and any different Citroens are worth quite good amounts, some a lot more than others. Whether the Activa will ever get there ive no idea, will any even survive to a time when that might happen. Our 6H has slowly risen in the 30 years my dad has had it, it then shot up becoming more desirable.

Im not bothered about their value anyway, it not why we have these cars, I just think they are great cars, an experience to drive and even now nothing really touches it in terms of its abilities given the kind of car it is. Its arguably the most complex and advanced Citroen suspension set up ever, I think they should be kept for that reason. After all it seemed to be more of a test to see what could be done, rather than an idea for the future - for that its of special interest to me.

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Post by davoxx » 09 Jun 2011, 22:01

i think you should like a car because of the car, not coz it is rare, or that someone famous had one, it's a car for driving, and should be worth accordingly ... hence they are priceless :)

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Post by Citroenmad » 09 Jun 2011, 22:03

davoxx wrote:i think you should like a car because of the car, not coz it is rare, or that someone famous had one, it's a car for driving, and should be worth accordingly ... hence they are priceless :)
Quite right :)

Though rarity really appeals to me in cars, its the cars themselves which attracts me to them.

Indeed, the Activas are priceless, you can't put a price on an experience!


My only reason behind wanting their prices to rise is that more will be saved. Someone owning a £300 Activa then needs to put a clutch in it or get the cambelt done or a set of tyres or whatever, its a considerable chunk of its value and so they will be lost that way.
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Post by CitroJim » 09 Jun 2011, 22:05

In view of the foregoing, I'm very pleased that I'm bringing another Activa back to good health :D

I've now done so twice in the past and again, in view of the foregoing, I may do some more...

As you say Chris, between us all, we have them pretty well sussed now...

Shame the accumulated knowledge wasn't available a few years back. many lost their lives simply because of weepy rams and the cost of their replacements :cry:

According to that site, there are many more V6's still on the road...