Some buying advice..
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Some buying advice..
The last few months I've been on the look out for a car to buy.
I've finally come across one that fits the bill. It's low mileage, is taxed and MOT and generally looks in lovely condition and is very very keenly priced, about half the price of similar cars.
There are two things which are making me a little unsure.
First is that the service history is incomplete, this hasn't stopped me before but I no longer have the motivation to do work on a car. The service book was apprently lost by the previous owner and the current owner has been to the dealer and has a printout of some of the work carried out.
Secondly, most importantly, the car is classified Cat D. The seller has freely disclosed this fact and says it was merely because the bumper and headlights were stolen. The parts have since been replaced. I understand that should I come to sell it in the future I must expect a reduced value. This also accounts for the price it is being sold at.
Its a lovely car, and just what I want. It is in Essex and I'm considering going to look at it Sunday but some opinions would be nice. The car in question is on Ebay and the seller's feedback is excellent, being 100%.
Go for it?
I've finally come across one that fits the bill. It's low mileage, is taxed and MOT and generally looks in lovely condition and is very very keenly priced, about half the price of similar cars.
There are two things which are making me a little unsure.
First is that the service history is incomplete, this hasn't stopped me before but I no longer have the motivation to do work on a car. The service book was apprently lost by the previous owner and the current owner has been to the dealer and has a printout of some of the work carried out.
Secondly, most importantly, the car is classified Cat D. The seller has freely disclosed this fact and says it was merely because the bumper and headlights were stolen. The parts have since been replaced. I understand that should I come to sell it in the future I must expect a reduced value. This also accounts for the price it is being sold at.
Its a lovely car, and just what I want. It is in Essex and I'm considering going to look at it Sunday but some opinions would be nice. The car in question is on Ebay and the seller's feedback is excellent, being 100%.
Go for it?
Toby
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Re: Some buying advice..
What is it Toby?
I ask because it has a bearing on whether or not the service history is missing. Never something I've really worried about...
If it's a Reliant Robin then it'll not be important but if it's something like a Pagani Zonda then I guess it's pretty critical...
Cat D - minor cosmetic damage?
I will comment no further until you disclose what it is...
I ask because it has a bearing on whether or not the service history is missing. Never something I've really worried about...
If it's a Reliant Robin then it'll not be important but if it's something like a Pagani Zonda then I guess it's pretty critical...
Cat D - minor cosmetic damage?
I will comment no further until you disclose what it is...
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Supposedly cosmetic damage only. As mentioned, the bumper and headlights were stolen. Why it was written off for that I don't know.
It is a Jaguar XJR. 2001 with 60k. There is some service history, but it is a printout of stuff done over the years from the dealer who carried out the work, rather than anything recorded in a service book.
It is a Jaguar XJR. 2001 with 60k. There is some service history, but it is a printout of stuff done over the years from the dealer who carried out the work, rather than anything recorded in a service book.
Toby
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A dealer printout should be fine Toby, so long as it goes right up to the recent past.
Stolen headlights? The mind boggles...
A dealer printout should be fine Toby, so long as it goes right up to the recent past.
Stolen headlights? The mind boggles...
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Re: Some buying advice..
I can imagine you right at home behind an XJR Toby
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Re: Some buying advice..
I've never worried to much about the service history book, you can tell if a car has been maintained or not.
I've had a few cat D's in the past, mainly stolen recovered that I purchased from the salvage yard and sorted out and used. In the one I was involved in a non fault accident and the car was written of for a second time! Amazingly the insurance company paid out, let me keep the car and put it back on the road
When some insurance companies write of a car they request the service history book etc, so that could explain that.
For write off categories I found this on the what car website
Category A – Of scrap value only. The car should have been crushed and there are no salvageable spare parts.
Category B – The body should have been crushed, but the rest of the car can be dismantled for spare parts.
Category C – The car has been badly damaged, and the insurance company has decided not to repair the car. The car can be legally repaired, but must pass an inspection before it is allowed back on the road.
Category D – The car is less seriously damaged. It can be repaired and made fit for road use.
Category F – A fire damaged car. It can be repaired and put back on the road.
I've had a few cat D's in the past, mainly stolen recovered that I purchased from the salvage yard and sorted out and used. In the one I was involved in a non fault accident and the car was written of for a second time! Amazingly the insurance company paid out, let me keep the car and put it back on the road
When some insurance companies write of a car they request the service history book etc, so that could explain that.
For write off categories I found this on the what car website
Category A – Of scrap value only. The car should have been crushed and there are no salvageable spare parts.
Category B – The body should have been crushed, but the rest of the car can be dismantled for spare parts.
Category C – The car has been badly damaged, and the insurance company has decided not to repair the car. The car can be legally repaired, but must pass an inspection before it is allowed back on the road.
Category D – The car is less seriously damaged. It can be repaired and made fit for road use.
Category F – A fire damaged car. It can be repaired and put back on the road.
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Re: Some buying advice..
I agree with Jim . It sounds as in this case most of the work's been done anyway. If as you say, the seller open and honest, then yes, buy it. Life's too short..Toby_HDi wrote:
Its a lovely car, and just what I want. It is in Essex and I'm considering going to look at it Sunday but some opinions would be nice. The car in question is on Ebay and the seller's feedback is excellent, being 100%.
Go for it?
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If it's the blue one thats on ebay that I've just looked at you can see in the sellers "feedback as buyer" section that he purchased the car in November.
To a degree it makes me suspicious when someone tries shifting a car on soon after getting it. However the "i'm only selling it as my wife says it is too big and too fast - which was actually the reason I bought it!!" could be genuine.
It does look a nice bit of kit.
To a degree it makes me suspicious when someone tries shifting a car on soon after getting it. However the "i'm only selling it as my wife says it is too big and too fast - which was actually the reason I bought it!!" could be genuine.
It does look a nice bit of kit.
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Sounds like rubbish to me Toby, more like he hit something and broke the bumper and headlamp or bought it to do up and sell on BUT do not shy away from cat C or D cars, and dont shy away from this one, nothing wrong with them at all and if the price reflects the damage then its a bonus, service history again dont worry but check the condition of the oils and fluids before and after a testdrive and the way the car feels on the road.
If the price is right then go for it, enjoy her and dont worry about the cat D at all, always fancied an XJR or XJS myself but bought a Honda when decision time came......................for some stupid reason.
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If the price is right then go for it, enjoy her and dont worry about the cat D at all, always fancied an XJR or XJS myself but bought a Honda when decision time came......................for some stupid reason.
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just seen the listing and yes he did buy to do it up and sell on so check the front panel from under the bonnet just to be sure its been repaired properly and she will be a good one Toby, good luck with it as for the money you cant really argue in my opinion.
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If you look at the current listing and the one that he purchased it from it's mainly copy and paste (thats if this is the same car/listing that we think it is)
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I've just looked too. This is why I asked here. I'd never have spotted the other listing. Thanks fellas!pug_owner2002 wrote:If you look at the current listing and the one that he purchased it from it's mainly copy and paste (thats if this is the same car/listing that we think it is)
From the listings it seems the chap who has it now didn't fix it up, but the one before him did. As Dean says, that heightens suspicions when he only bought it on the 22nd December
Hmmm, I did have a niggly doubt in the back of my mind since I saw it. Certainly made me think again now.
Toby
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