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How soon before they use this as an excuse and apply more increases to diesel users.

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Typical enviro nonsense that is used to muster up extra cash !!

So, trucks, taxi's, trains and most of all BUSES will presumably also be surcharged for their MUCH bigger contribution to the ALLEGED problem then ?!

How about Jet aviation traffic around principal UK cities, their emissions are similar in substance and of HUGE volume.

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Only if they need to buy a permit to park outside their homes, if they don't then they won't be affected.

Of course this, to my knowledge, breaches the Kyoto agreement by disencouraging people to drive lower CO2 emitting vehicles.
It's a similar argument that was used to get the 2500L duty free limit on veg oil.
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I can imagine how a few hundred quid extra per year will be a big incentive to Chelsea residents to change their habits - NOT. :roll:
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It's only £15 more for a diesel car.
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Xac wrote:It's only £15 more for a diesel car.
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Whilst i in no way approve of the governments methods of rinsing the british public in general and specifically levying various and numerous types of tax's on car drivers under the guise of environment, i do to some extent support the theory behind this. Whilst diesels may produce less co2 the stuff that comes out of the exhaust is truly foul, full of noxious gases and particles, i drive a diesel myself purely because is it cheaper and i do think that maybe it wouldnt be a bad thing to use diesel revenues to subsidise small petrols. I regularly cycle along a road chock full of bus's and trucks and at every set of lights you get blasted with a haze of heady gases, you only have to see the soot deposits on the bumper by the exhaust of a diesel to wonder what is going into our lungs.
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Post by Chlorate »

Seems a bit unfair given most modern diesels have anti-particulate measures up the backside because of our good friends in Brussels...

I would have said the biggest source of particulates would be things like trucks and buses which evidently don't have to comply to the same regulations regarding particulates that cars have to.

They tax us for producing too much CO2 then come up with a way to tax us for producing less CO2... :evil:
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Chlorate wrote:Seems a bit unfair given most modern diesels have anti-particulate measures up the backside because of our good friends in Brussels...
True, but I regularly see even modern diesels chucking out clouds of potentially cancer-causing soot.

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Sl4yer wrote:
Chlorate wrote:Seems a bit unfair given most modern diesels have anti-particulate measures up the backside because of our good friends in Brussels...
True, but I regularly see even modern diesels chucking out clouds of potentially cancer-causing soot.

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Not sure about the carcinogenic properties of soot but you certainly see a lot of it emanating from non PSA exhausts, even brand new models.
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Post by Kowalski »

If diesel cars emiited more pollution than petrol cars when parked a parking surcharge could be justified.

They're using air pollution as a justification, I wonder how many of the cars driving in the borough in question actually belong to residents and how many belong to outsiders.
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Post by spider »

Although slightly off topic, it was not that long ago (certainly early 90's I remember) diesel was a fair bit cheaper than petrol.

It should be cheaper too as far as I understand it its easier to produce it in needing less refining, someone correct this point though if I'm wrong.

I guess the increase in derv usage for cars since, mostly thanks to the PSA group at the time as most other's derv engines were a bit um, poor was the 'excuse' for govt / oil companies to charge as much if not more for the fuel now.
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