Citrojim's Skoda, Saxo, 207 and Bike Tales

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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by ekjdm14 » 18 May 2017, 15:02

ah, that is also a distinct possibility. I'll try and find the details of the thing when I get a minute to look, although there are 4 fairly obvious large transistors screwed to large heatsinks which I'd hazard a guess at being dead. Thanks :)

Also a more pertinent question, as it relates to the upgraded stereo I found for the Xantia. It's a Cit. branded Blaupunkt unit which I wanted as it has an AUX input as well as tape deck. Only real issue I have with it is the FM reception is terrible, it will pick up local stations if we're close enough to the transmitter but only weakly. (only time it's picked up an RDS signal was in Macclesfield the other day about 3 or 4 miles from the Silk FM transmitter!) I haven't checked for AM/LW but can do if needed.

Is there any form of aerial trim possible on this kind of DLL tuner, and if there is then what would be the best method for an amateur. We have a small FM transmitter of the kind used to send a signal from a portable CD player or phone to a car stereo, would that be any use in adjusting it if required.

TBH it's more likely a fault than adjustment though isn't it, if the tuner is this bad? Where would you look first for failed/damaged components in this one? (might be telling that it's sat in a damp/mouldy and leaking Xantia break in a scrap yard for at least a couple of years before I grabbed it.

No big deal if it can't be fixed as the original stereo worked well, was just low spec.
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by elma » 18 May 2017, 15:33

Seems to be a common problem, mine is the same despite the aerial and cables being checked.
Very interested to find out why as I would also like to repair.
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by elma » 18 May 2017, 16:31

Is this one of the recommended bletchley books Jim? I picked it up a couple of weeks ago and forgot about it.

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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by CitroJim » 18 May 2017, 16:52

elma wrote:Seems to be a common problem, mine is the same despite the aerial and cables being checked.
Very interested to find out why as I would also like to repair.


Dan, James, there is no trimmer... I know what you mean as old-school MW/LW car wirelesses used to have one as the coax feeder from the whip used to form a loading coil to help match the whip and the trimmer was needed to bring the whole shooting match to resonance...

This explains why those old aerials had some distinctly odd-looking coax on them...

Modern aerials have normal coax and this (in part) is why MW/LW reception on a car wireless is so poor these days as the aerial is just not efficient...

Back on topic, the cause of both of your problems may be the rumoured preamp built into the base of the aerial. I really must look at my Activa soon as it has recently developed the same problem... It's gone a bit deaf...

James, that's a new book on me. let me know how it is as I'm always interested in good histories of the place and I've yet to find one that satisfies me...

My favourite is this one:

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This only focusses on one aspect and is satisfyingly technically accurate and detailed for me :)
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by elma » 18 May 2017, 16:57

I'll be reading this one tonight so I'll let you know.
If it's any good you can have it next, I don't revisit books unless they are technical.

The pre amp in the base is basically a ring magnet around the connector. I found it when I was fault finding my radio, theres a picture in my blog somewhere I think.
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by ekjdm14 » 18 May 2017, 19:10

Definitely not an aerial fault Jim, the original stereo I should have mentioned has great FM reception just this scrapyard "upgrade" item is weak on ours. (although I note that even with the original unit, if I set the PLL tuner to scan for the next station it just keeps on scanning without locking onto anything. set manually though it receives even a weak signal from a rock station I like to the same level as any other car I've tried)

I do have an amplified aerial adaptor I was considering plugging in but I would imagine it's not going to fix a dodgy tuner. Will have to strip it down at some point and see what's going on corrosion-wise but I don't think it's too bad as the tape deck works OK and it picks up strong signals alright.
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by demag » 19 May 2017, 00:43

The Secret Life of Bletchley Park is very good.

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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by CitroJim » 19 May 2017, 05:29

ekjdm14 wrote:Definitely not an aerial fault Jim, the original stereo I should have mentioned has great FM reception just this scrapyard "upgrade" item is weak on ours.


Right, now I understand Dan... The unit will have a problem then...

Is it a 4030 or a 4040?

I may have the circuit diagrams of it and RF realignment may help. Else that it may well have a fault in the front-end RF stages...

When I have time, and that is a precious commodity at the moment, I'll take a look...

demag wrote:The Secret Life of Bletchley Park is very good.


Excellent Dave, I'll see if I can get hold of a copy...
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by elma » 19 May 2017, 08:01

I only got a few pages read last night. There were some plumbing problems I had to resolve which took my evening up. First impressions are promising, the book was researched by interviewing people who actually worked at Bletchley. I hope to get properly stuck in tonight.
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by CitroJim » 19 May 2017, 08:02

I found an interesting little 'feature' on the Pug of Love :) I first noticed it on Wednesday and again last evening on the way home from my normal Thursday evening run with the Redway Runners...

If it's raining and the front wipers are on, when you engage reverse gear the rear wiper starts up!

I think that's incredibly neat and clever :)
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by elma » 19 May 2017, 08:14

The scenic had that feature. I also liked it very much.
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by CitroJim » 19 May 2017, 08:49

elma wrote:The scenic had that feature. I also liked it very much.


I understand, from a FB post I made about it, the Clio has it too...

elma wrote:I only got a few pages read last night. There were some plumbing problems I had to resolve which took my evening up. First impressions are promising, the book was researched by interviewing people who actually worked at Bletchley. I hope to get properly stuck in tonight.


Hope this evening allows a bit more relaxed reading James ;) Interested to hear your final review of this book... It really sounds promising if uses first-hand accounts from people who were there at the time...
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by RichardW » 19 May 2017, 10:55

CitroJim wrote:I found an interesting little 'feature' on the Pug of Love :) I first noticed it on Wednesday and again last evening on the way home from my normal Thursday evening run with the Redway Runners...

If it's raining and the front wipers are on, when you engage reverse gear the rear wiper starts up!

I think that's incredibly neat and clever :)


See, there are some advantages to the witchcraft that is multiplexing!! You can probably turn it off via the screen menu if you can find the right bit....!
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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by mickeymoon » 19 May 2017, 10:56

The Berlingo and 207 I have both have this feature. It's very useful!

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Re: Citrojim's Activa, 1.9TD, 207 and Bike Tales

Post by CitroJim » 19 May 2017, 12:11

I agree it's useful Mike :) I'll be leaving it on even if it can be disabled in the witchcraft! I love that description of Multiplexing Richard :)
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