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Post by vince » 25 Oct 2009, 00:10

I had a poke around at the location of the column shrouds and screw locations as im going to replace my dash panel bulbs soon. How long did it take you Jim? Also do you need to take the steering wheel off to get the clocks out?

Im sure i could see the screws holding the switch panel in.

Can the shroud only be removed with the wheel off....i had it in half but it didnt want to come away :)

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Post by CitroJim » 25 Oct 2009, 08:26

Yes, now you say Xac, they do look a bit big at 17.5 mm tall as well. It was late when I looked!!! Ho, hum, resume search!

Vince, hope the toothache is now all better.

Yes, the steering wheel must come off. I know some say the instruments can be wriggled out, it makes it a whole lot easier to take a few extra minutes to get the wheel and cowls off.

Heres how:

Park up with the steering wheel turned 90 degrees to normal. Disconnect battery, undo the two Torx 30 holding the airbag. The screws are at an angle and accessible when the wheel is turned as said.

Disconnect the airbag (after 20 ins has elapsed since the battery was disconnected) and the radio controls at the little plug (be careful - delicate, You'll need a small tool to open its locking tang) Note where the rotary is resting and mark it to get it back in the same place.

21mm socket to remove the wheel. Note position it is in to aid refitting. Don't completely remove the nut until the wheel is free of its splines or you may end up with a face full of steering wheel and it hurts! Use open palms behind the wheel to jar it free of the splines.

Remove the two screws under the cowl, one at the back and one to the left. Prise off the top cowl. Find the "secret" screw holding the lower cowl on. It is on the right and facing downward by the wiper stalk. Disconnect the dimmer pot and carefully remove the lower cowl. You'll need to pop the steering column height adjuster and push the column to its lowest setting.

Undo the top two screws under the fusebox lid. Remove the screw holding the small panel below the alarm and window pushbuttons. Pull down the top of the fusebox lid panel and pull the little panel out.

Identify and remove the three screws on the lower edge of the switch panel and remove them. One is on the very end and the other two under the fabric flap that hides the join to the top cowl. Note that one holds the airbag rotary connector.

Pull the panel from the right and unclip it from the clock/hazard/HRW switch panel on the left. Disconnect the switch plugs and remove it.

Remove the four connectors at the bottom of the instrument pod by pushing the "hoops" upward and tugging gently on the wires. Undo the three screws holding the pod. Two on the lower edge and one at the top under the fascia hood. Use a small tool to carefully prise the top lug under the hood down and tilt the pod forward and wriggle it out.

Replace all illumination bulbs.

Reassembly is a reversal etc. Time about two hours. Bulbs are R286 type and the old ones will be tight in their little black housings. Test each before reassembly. I found one duff one in my pack. I used a multimeter on ohms for that.

Anything not clear, get in touch!

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Post by vince » 25 Oct 2009, 09:11

Cheers Jim :wink: sounds like a piece of cake :lol:

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Post by CitroJim » 25 Oct 2009, 19:58

Those are the right bulbs Xac. I popped a Vernier on one I have here and the 5mm and 17.5mm measurements tally. I'll order a pack of ten in the week as I need two plus spares and I'm sure you need at least four!

Drove the V6 today and found I had the steering wheel a spline out following the instrument bulb replacement. never noticed last night as it was dark but nothing irritates me more than a steering wheel that's not level when going straight ahead. 10 minutes and all fixed. I did disconnect and remove the airbag but did the job without touching the radio remote plug or fully removing the steering wheel.

That done I set about tidying and rearranging the garage ready for the arrival of a poorly V6. Not far into that job and Sid The Squid calls asking if he may nip over to replace his front brake pads and attend a few other small jobs on the Green Goblin. There followed a most pleasant afternoon indeed :D

Xantia_v6's poorly V6 will be arriving later in the week and then work will commence to see what has failed in the gearbox. I'm looking forward to it with some relish I must confess. Firstly though my garage has to be made ready and I cannot believe how much more stuff I seem to have acquired since I did mine :roll: All of which has to be found a temporary home. That home will be the conservatory, much, no doubt, to the consternation of the cats...

I've loosely reassembled the EPIC pump I had in bits and that, along with the ML5 gearbox will now have to wait their turn...

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Post by Sid_the_Squid » 25 Oct 2009, 22:04

Thanks for your help today Jim, After the GG fell off its jack for the 3rd time in a row :oops: I realized I was going to need some help.

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Post by Xaccers » 25 Oct 2009, 22:52

CitroJim wrote:Those are the right bulbs Xac. I popped a Vernier on one I have here and the 5mm and 17.5mm measurements tally. I'll order a pack of ten in the week as I need two plus spares and I'm sure you need at least four!
You're a star Jim!
I think I only need 2, maybe 3.

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Post by CitroJim » 26 Oct 2009, 07:24

Bulbs are on order Xac :)

Just hope they are delivered before the Posties go off on one again...

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Post by RichardW » 26 Oct 2009, 13:36

CitroJim, in his other blog wrote:I shall never do such a big job again.
to which Citroen7 wrote:thats as about as likley as pigs flying as well you know
sometime later, in another thread, CitroJim wrote: I can only suggest the next course of action is to flat-bed the patient over to Newport Pagnell for a full examination and diagnosis.

We can make her better
and in this thread, CitroJim wrote:work will commence to see what has failed in the gearbox. I'm looking forward to it with some relish I must confess
That'll be 1-0 to Citroen7 then :lol: Have fun Jim!

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Post by andmcit » 26 Oct 2009, 13:44

:lol: :lol: Well spotted Richard!

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Post by CitroJim » 26 Oct 2009, 13:51

Oh gosh, how one's words can come back to haunt you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by XantiaMan » 26 Oct 2009, 16:47

Lmao, the sign of a true enthusiast :wink:

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Post by CitroJim » 26 Oct 2009, 22:43

Good work achieved this evening :D One very tidy and well-organised garage all ready to commence work on a sick V6. I never knew I could make so much room in it but then again my car is full to the gunwales with junk and rubbish ready to take down the tip tomorrow.

I even laid a few carpet tiles on some bare areas of the concrete floor :D

The patio in the back garden now sports a collection of gearboxes under wraps. Goes well with the six wheels already adorning it :lol: :lol:

Luckily, the patio is pretty well hidden from all eyes so there's no worries about complaints from neighbours about an unsightly patio.

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Post by Citroenmad » 26 Oct 2009, 23:34

We could do with you here :lol: Our garage is full of everything, if you look carefully you can just about make out an old Citroen hiding under 3 years of dust :lol: I dont know how we manage to have so much stuff, one day ill have a good clear out but until the car is back together its hard to get the room to sort things out.

Good luck with the V6 :D

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Post by MikeT » 27 Oct 2009, 01:17

Hi Jim, I got some carpet left over, how much concrete area is still showing in your garage?

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Post by CitroJim » 27 Oct 2009, 21:45

MikeT wrote:Hi Jim, I got some carpet left over, how much concrete area is still showing in your garage?
Thanks Mike but I'm OK. Last year I got hold of a load of second-hand industrial quality carpet tiles just before they ended up in a builders skip following an office refurbish. Those tiles are now laid in my garage, completing the job I started last evening. I'm now free of bare concrete and that will help keep the dirt and dust at bay for the gearbox rebuild. Also, it's easier on my knees :D

This gives and idea of my garage now:

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The bulbs I ordered for the heater panel arrived today and in failing light this afternoon I fitted them. They're good and the right ones.

I now have a full complement of interior lights in my car now :D