Citrojim's Pixo, Saxo and Cycling Tales

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by KP » 18 Jun 2014, 15:40

Ha ha like it Chris!
But that's pretty decent Jim.

I'd love to know what it's like driven gently?!

Guessing it weighs about 700kg as well with no electrics inside it ;)

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 18 Jun 2014, 16:02

Chris570 wrote:yes but to be fair you only have 3 injectors working
True! And only three pistons too!!!

I shall try driving gently for a tankful and see.. It'll be hard mind. It just begs to be driven with some spirit :-D

Will, 800Kg so not far off... I only add 68Kg to that..

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by KP » 18 Jun 2014, 17:25

That can't be far off the original minis to be fair. I would how a two pot diesel would do in them as it would have enough torque with a turbo for that size of car, could crack 100mpg then and be rfl free for a good few years as well as the gov keeps bringing the threshold down...

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Hell Razor5543 » 18 Jun 2014, 17:29

IIRC the Daihatsu Charade diesel could do 100MPG on a tiny engine.

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 18 Jun 2014, 17:40

KP wrote:That can't be far off the original minis to be fair.
I'd expect it to be *way* better than an original Mini. They were from the days when 30mpg out of a 1.6 was acceptable. I hardly ever got 40mpg out of my Metro with the 1275cc and SU carb, and mini owning friends used to reckon 35-40mpg and no more. Horrific little cars. The guy I helped out after school in his garage when I was a kid was a Mini specialist. Put me off the bloody things for life. Hilarious to be a passenger in when they were being driven fast though.

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by KP » 18 Jun 2014, 18:35

I meant weight wise :)

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 18 Jun 2014, 18:45

KP wrote:I meant weight wise :)
Ah, my mistake. Yes, not far off. I think they were about 670kgs. Just think how much safer and better a C1 is, and only for an extra 100kgs or so..

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by KP » 18 Jun 2014, 19:23

Very true indeed :) still think the French should do what they do best and stick a nice tiny turbo diesel in there...

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 18 Jun 2014, 19:28

I thought all small French cars either had to be powered by a tappety pushrod lump or the 1360cc inline 4? :shock:

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 18 Jun 2014, 19:30

northern_mike wrote:Horrific little cars. The guy I helped out after school in his garage when I was a kid was a Mini specialist. Put me off the bloody things for life. Hilarious to be a passenger in when they were being driven fast though.
I still carry a torch for the original Mini. It was my first car. An 850 Deluxe in Old English White, EPL 605B was its plate. Long gone now I guess as in my ownership it was made mostly of Plastic Padding and David’s Isopon. It may have been Delux but it makes the C1 look positively luxurious and opulent.

The old A series'd Minis were never wonderfully economical. 40 mpg was very good. Good engine it its day but that was 60 years ago now.

I loved that car and foolishly swapped it for an Austin 1300. Now that was a truly horrific car!

I then had five Metros, two MGs, a Turbo, a VDP and a late K series model. The Turbo was fun... The K was a lovely engine and the car itself was actually excellent but let down by atrocious build quality. Such a shame.

I could almost have an old Mini as a project now but for the cost of one you could get a top-spec. C1 or two...

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 18 Jun 2014, 19:31

KP wrote: still think the French should do what they do best and stick a nice tiny turbo diesel in there...
You're nearly right Will, what it really wants is a little turbo petrol in there. The result would be hilarious...

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by daviemck2006 » 18 Jun 2014, 23:26

The best I got for one tank of really trying in my 107 was 74mpg. That was an experimental tank. I had the tyres pumped up to 45 psi, the unnecessary bits of the grill taped over and the bonnet shuts taped over. My normal was about 62mpg give or take. There's a really simple way to work it out. Fill it to the neck and when the first bar on the fuel gauge goes out it will have used near enough exactly 2 gallons. Try it and see. Has to be totally necked though. I have also put in 37.4 litres in and the handbook says 35 litres. We ur low on fuel, the last bar will start flashing, then about 15 miles later start flashing much quicker. This does mean put petrol in now. I got another 11.5 miles before I ran out. This was tried with a gallon in the boot because I was trying to get 5 days of my then commute out of our tank. It failed by 12 miles. So you aim for 130 miles off the top bar then the bars are not linear I can't remember but think the second did another 80. It will take about 4to5 thousand miles to loosen up properly. Easiest car to service you will ever have.

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 19 Jun 2014, 04:33

Davie, excellent :-D Most interesting reading... Thanks. When the thing is a bit looser I must have a go at all-out economy..

I'm not brave enough to go anywhere near flashing fuel gauge bars!!!

Servicing does look easy. There's not a lot to do is there :lol: :lol:

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by RichardW » 19 Jun 2014, 07:40

CitroJim wrote: Servicing does look easy. There's not a lot to do is there :lol: :lol:
Not for 3 years anway, just take it to the garage, drink their 'coffee' and grimace when they present the bill :-D

Struggling to imagine you in a new motor Jim..... :mrgreen:

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by lexi » 19 Jun 2014, 07:48

I have only jumped in the C1 for a moment. I would need to take the back seats out for gear.
Mind you I have done that with Vel. Cars make great load luggers without back seats........simple.