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Post by DickieG » 25 Jul 2009, 19:57

CitroJim wrote:Speaking of spam reminds me of Vauxhalls for some reason and on that subject, I was today out giving the V6 a shakedown and came up behind a late Vectra travelling relatively slowly. Why only became apparant when I looked closely; we were traversing a stretch of road on my test circuit which I know is very bumpy. The Vectra was all over the place and looked like a cork in a rough sea. The V6 on the other had did not even register the bumps. Do Vecras really ride that badly? If so they must be purgatory on anything other than a billiard table.

Yes Vectras do ride that badly, the old 'P' reg V6 ones were even worse and so bad that on fenland roads you needed to slow to a crawl as the car bottomed out on the slightest undulation not to mention it was physically painful to your own body, dreadful car's Vectra's :evil: they must have been designed over the phone.

CitroJim wrote:Next job is the rear arm bearings :( Not looking forward to that...

They aren't that bad to do Jim, you'll get each side done easily within a couple of hours, I know what job I'd choose between changing rear arm bearings and rebuilding an auto gearbox.
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Post by CitroJim » 26 Jul 2009, 17:54

Ahh, so the Vectra does ride that badly then :wink: Won't be getting one of those any time soon then..

Mind you, a lot of traffic seems to move slowly when piloting a V6 :lol:

DickieG wrote:They aren't that bad to do Jim, you'll get each side done easily within a couple of hours.


That's good Richard :D I'm pleased to hear that. All being well, I'll be doing that job this coming weekend.

Between a spot of gardening, I helped my neighbour get a wheel off his Tranist Van. He'd already broken three cheap socket sets attempting to get the wheelnust undone :lol: My breaker bar, an impact socket and me leaping up and down on the end of the bar eventually loosened them but they were hugely tight. It must have been some gorilla or a BIG rattle gun that did them up!

I then made a couple of subsittute Activa Ram Bushes on the lathe following a couple of requests for them. Mine may not be as good as the originals but they are a lot cheaper :lol:

Out then for a long drive in the V6 around the Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire and Northamptonshire countryside to give it another good test run. I'm happy to say all is good but those rear arm bearings need doing....
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Post by Xaccers » 26 Jul 2009, 18:09

When I had Syb, my first Xantia, a beautiful young lady put a dent in him just below the O/S rear lights, in that rectangular section.
She was on her way to a dinner with her boyfriend so I didn't feel too bad turning her offer to get her dad's mate to fix it down opting to go via insurance instead.
While my car was being dealt with by I think Vikings of Basingrad - sorry Stoke - they gave me a "sporty" Vectra to drive.
It was horrible, the centre arm rest over hang the hand brake making it hard to get to, it was gutless as anything and worst of all was petrol so you had to rev the balls of it to get anywhere.
I was so despirate to get my Xantia back that I managed to talk Viking into letting me take it before they'd finished cleaning/polishing it.
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Post by myglaren » 26 Jul 2009, 19:35

My son in law arranged a 3 day test drive of a Vectra 2.3 turbo diesel.

We took it out for a run on some decent roads and some not so good ones.

It went like a scalded cat but was the most uncomfortable car I have been in, apart from my dad's moggy.
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Post by red_dwarfers » 26 Jul 2009, 20:00

Talking of Vauxhalls, my parent's have a Mk5 Astra. Steel Girders for suspension and rock hard seats :evil:
Our previous Mk2 Astra on the other hand was a pleasure to drive and it had much better all round viewing than even the Xantia, let alone this new Astra.
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Post by CitroJim » 30 Jul 2009, 19:36

And the news for Vauxhall continues to look poor. I see BSM have abandoned their long-standing arrangement with Vauxhall and gone over to Fiat 500s.

My GF runs a Corsa ( :twisted: ) She spotted this thread and got rather, umm, vocal :lol: :lol:

She's had Vauxhalls for years, right from Nova days and she is not a particular fan of her latest Corsa. She says the earlier ones she has owned have been far better.

Happy to say my V6 continues good and is fully continient in all departments :D :D It's so good to see an alternator free of LHM spills and a bone-dry pressure regulator :wink:

The gearbox is now a whole world better and most changes are utterly imperceptable.

I have a rattle from the front suspension. I thought it was the rear but it is not, definitely the front but can I find it? It has new drop links and everything seems tight :twisted: It's got me for a bit. Big investigation this weekend.

I went to see Xac the other evening to look at his failed rear screen heater. Funnily, it fixed itself after a bit of relay massage.

But guess what though Xac....

In all the dampness last night my rear screen misted and I went to switch on the heater and my V6 is showing exactly the same symptoms!

It must be catching! The problem lept from Cassy to my car parked right behind. We know why yours is now working Xac :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Xaccers » 30 Jul 2009, 20:03

Have you done the fan relay mod yet? :)
Danielle and I loved having you over Jim, glad you enjoyed your spud.
Course if you'd delayed til tonight you could have had some duck stirfry ;)
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Post by CitroJim » 02 Aug 2009, 16:22

Ummm, Duuuuuck (in a Homer Simpson voice!)

Thoroughly enjoyed the evening :D It was excellent and sp was the baked potato!

Xac wrote:Have you done the fan relay mod yet? :)


No, not yet as the ignition switch has been replaced and the blower runs perfectly :roll:

I must confess I've not looked yet as I've been laid low by this shoulder. Goodness only knows what went on. Perfect on Friday morning and by Friday evening a complete bona-fide cripple :shock: Yesterday was a complete wash-out :evil: I couldn't even type :cry: Richard rang me and he could detect immediately from my vice that I was not a happy bunny.

Much better today though. Almost as if it never happened. Now what's all that about? maybe Ibuprofen really is magical stuff?

Still, despite all the pain and suffering I did collect a set of Xantia seats for Malcolm in the 2.1TD and they were worth the trip even if by the time I arrived home I was wrecked. My shoulder was then so bad it was as much as I could do to get the car parked :twisted: The seats are lovely though. Immaculate.

I met the seller and he was interesting. He strips cars carefully and sells the bits on eBay. All done under cover and with great care. A true dismantler rather than a breaker if you know what I mean.

I've been busy catching up on all I could not do yesterday (a lot :twisted: ) and now just about clear so I can go and have a forum catch-up :D
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Post by Toby_HDi » 02 Aug 2009, 16:44

CitroJim wrote:...Speaking of spam reminds me of Vauxhalls for some reason...


I resent that comment :lol:

Can't speak for the newer Vectra's but my 'V' Reg V6 one was fairly firm. Certainly wasn't all over the place though. Must have been something wrong.

My current Omega is ok, does have air springs on the rear. Needs drop links and some general maintainence but is ok.

Glad to see the V6 is going well Jim and you having some fun with it :wink:
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Post by CitroJim » 08 Aug 2009, 17:59

Toby_HDi wrote:I resent that comment :lol:


Sorry Toby :oops: Not aimed at V6 drivers you understand :wink: :lol:

In answer to your second question...

Took the V6 for a run down to Somerset and back today :D She performed faultlessly following just a couple of tadettes of bother during the week.

The first was a small coolant leak from the transmission cooler outlet where it joins the rad. I noticed the hose was rock-hard and then found the top and botton hoses rock hard too :shock: I was a tad worried but the fault was simple. It was the rad cap. It had stuck itself up and was not relieving presure. When I removed it, it was like opening a bottle of cola! The hose at the rad was the weakest point.

The other was a worrying weep of transmission oil from the LH driveshaft again. Just a tiny one :(

The journey to Somerset and back today shows both resolved. No coolant used and no weeps fromt he driveshaft seal (and for that matter nowhere else either :D )

I also gave it a few beans as well, where I could. Gosh does it ever go when kicked-down to pass something :D :D It's scary how fast it reaches 90 from 50 :lol:

I found a brilliant fun piece of road today as well. The A303 looked chokkers so I diverted off at Sparkford (home of the BoL :twisted: ), past the Haynes Motor Museum and up to Frome via Bruton on the A359.

It was deserted, scenic, full of twisty bits and ups and downs. A real pleasure to drive and a real "Activa" road 8)

I was staggered at just how well the V6 handles. Granted it rolls a bit compared to the Activa but it's sure footed and very poised.

If you are ever in that neck of the woods, look out for the A359 and find a reason to drive it. You won't regret it :D
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Post by xantia_v6 » 09 Aug 2009, 20:57

Jim,

I am very glad that your are getting some payback for the TLC you have given that car.

I am not disappointed with the V6's handling either, and sometimes have forgotten about the load when I have had 300 kg or more of flatpack furniture or building materials on board (the performance still seems OK).

150kg on the roofrack does spoil the cornering a little however...
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Post by CitroJim » 10 Aug 2009, 08:58

xantia_v6 wrote:I am very glad that your are getting some payback for the TLC you have given that car.


I most certainly am. All I can say is the hard work has been well worth it :D :D

I've had to moderate though as my other cars were standing too idle and I was getting too used to the performance and the laziness of not changing gear. I was also starting to do some silly speeds; hence I found out how well it does actually handle :lol:

I took the Activa out for a long spin yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed every moment of it. The handling is very different and performance, whilst not in V6 territory is still great fun.

I also dug my 2.1TD out of its slumbers and restored it to it's former role as my daily runabout. I enjoyed taking that for a good spin to blow the cobwebs away.

I find that if I drive one car for too long it startes to pale somewhat and become a bit mindane and routine. Swap to one of the others and it's like discovering the joys of it all over again.

I need to drive all my cars regularly so i don't forget how to drive a car with a manual gearbox :roll:
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Post by Sid_the_Squid » 10 Aug 2009, 11:46

so i don't forget how to drive a car with a manual gearbox

Don't worry about that Jim, takes years to unlearn such a skill. ;)

Think of it like riding a bike, bet you could still ride one.

The V6's do handle amazingly especially considering just how heavy a car they are.
If you want a nice road a bit more locally, I took a quick spin up the A413 on Sunday, beautiful drive I would reccomend.
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Post by CitroJim » 10 Aug 2009, 12:55

Sid_the_Squid wrote:Don't worry about that Jim, takes years to unlearn such a skill. ;)


That's good to know Sid :D It did worry me a tad as I found switching between an S1 and S2 Xantia incredibly difficult due to different horn button locations and never knowing what button on the steering wheel did what to the wireless :twisted: It's one reason I have all S1s in my fleet :lol:

Which part of the A413? I know the bit of it between Aylesbury and Buckingham pretty well and also the end-run of it from Buckingham up to Towcester. Both bits are great fun and for this area, pretty scenic to boot.

The A422 between Buckingham and the A43 used to be fun until the killjoys imposed a 50mph limit on it although the A422 gets to be quite jolly again between the A43 and on via Banbury to Stratford :D
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Post by Sid_the_Squid » 10 Aug 2009, 13:10

I was thinking of the aylesbury to buckingham stretch, beautiful countryside, and a good road, with lots of overtaking room ;)

All this spirited driving, makes me think of how great a V6 Activa must be!

Hehe, its been so long since I've driven an Mk1 on a regular basis, that I had to stop and think about where the horn\rear heater buttons would be, must say if I am so provoked as to use the horn, I do tend to thump the steering wheel.

The 'famous' A4146 hemel to Leighton buzzard road used to be a fantastic driving road, especially for bikers, until all the speed cameras were added :(
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