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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 10 Apr 2013, 23:35

Hell Razor5543 wrote:I hope this is not a silly question, Jim, but do you feel ill, or just really tired?


The doc and specialist have diagnosed me with something similar, but have termed it post-viral fatigue. The symptoms are pretty much the same as Jim has, though I think mine is not as bad. Mine's not helped by thyroid problems , and it might also be made worse by my nose , which is having an operation on it shortly..

Anyway, ill, or just tired? How about so tired it makes you feel ill? My main problem is the pain I get after any sort of exertion. It's in my joints, not pulled or tired muscles, though muscle pain is something else I get. I usually get joint pain in knees, ankles, toes (!), fingers, and my shoulders. The pain in my hands was so severe that I was sent to have scans of both as the doc thought it was arthritis ( I have private care through my employer) but there's little wrong with my hands. The pain can drive me crazy though, which is why I don't like to work on the cars so much these days. Brain Fog - awful. Just like a fog, and it can descend at any time. I can feel it coming on these days, and to me, it now means "sleep immediately", because if I don't, things go downhill from then on. I can't stand bright lights, whether it be artificial or sunlight (on holiday in Cornwall this week, not seen much sun, that's for sure). I quite often have swollen glands seemingly for no reason. I sometimes get palpitations or irregular heartbeat, but the beta-blockers I take seem to have stopped this, so it can be put down to adrenal fatigue I believe. Getting good sleep often seems impossible because of the "illness".

Now, to look at me, you'd think I was a normal(ish) healthy, 39 year old chap. I have tests at the doc regularly because of my thyroid problems and get a health-check at work every year. I AM healthy - could do to lose a couple of stone, but I'm essentially fit. Why then, if I overdo it slightly do I feel in so much pain, and , well, it's hard to describe just how utterly wasted you feel - like you, I did security years ago, and worked many weird hours. I worked 12 hour night shifts for years and had interrupted sleep for a couple of years back in 06/07 and was tired then. It doesn't come close to what I feel when this hits. I feel like I have a small electric current coursing through me, my ears buzz a little, and my whole body is just useless. You remember that feeling you get in your skin, almost like a burning when you have been playing in the snow without gloves and a parent made you put your hands in front of the fire - like a weird heat? I get that in my arms, like they are on fire, and I just give up and have to sleep, my joints ache.. so I drug myself up with Lyrica and go to sleep. I've often got a permanent cold.

Here's the weird thing about the condition though.... sometimes I go to the gym at work, and I'll do 30 mins on the cross-trainer on a high level, get my heart rate up to , and keep it at 155 for 30 mins, 10 mins on the rower, then 3 sets of 15 on the chest press with 40kgs on, 3 sets shoulder press, 40kgs on, lateral pull downs with 60kgs on.. a couple of things with the kettlebells and free weights, then finish off with 10 mins on the bike and a cool down slow jog on the treadmill.

It doesn't hurt. I feel great. I'm not unfit. When the fatigue kicks in though, I feel like I'm 90 and about to shuffle off this mortal coil. It's a very, very strange condition.

Sorry for hijacking Jim, I just thought I'd say how fatigue makes me feel..
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 11 Apr 2013, 05:45

Northern_Mike wrote:Sorry for hijacking Jim, I just thought I'd say how fatigue makes me feel..


No worries, you have described it absolutely perfectly Mike :-D So that's it James. Just as Mike but a little less of the pain. It's the brain fog that keeps me off the forums. Trying to concentrate on them is useless. Also, my best time of day is early in the morning which is why I post most then..

Just have a look on the ME Association website at the set of symptoms and that's what the likes of Mike and I live with every day; thankfully the symptoms fluctuate from almost gone to full-on 100% but it's always there and it's only very careful management of what you do on a daily basis that makes it manageable...

I'd not wish it on my worst enemy... :evil:

Citroenmad wrote:The Activa as your summer daily, you will have a constant grin! :lol:


I'm going to 'grin' the Activa to work today Chris :-D

Citroenmad wrote:I do like your XM Jim, my ride out in it with Will driving extremely carefully was very enjoyable :roll:


Ahh, so that's why the cooling fans were running then :wink: :lol: You took it so slowly there was not enough airflow through the rad to keep it cool :lol: :lol:

That car loves being driven with some spirit :)
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by daviemck2006 » 11 Apr 2013, 14:02

I think most of my problems are with irregular hours and hard work when I was younger. I was a commercial fisherman from 17 to 39, often just getting a couple of hours sleep maximum, and IIRC the longest on deck without a break was about 55 hours, If you've ever watched the bbc series "Trawlermen" which was based in NE Scotland, thats exactly what I did. Mow, ant physical exertion at all leaves me sore, and virtually unable to move next day. It is a bit better now. I have also battled depression for quite a few years, and when I'm mentally down the physical symptoms get worse. I too now have to plan days in advance, just now is difficult, but hey ha, have to keep going. Once I get moved, hopefully things will settle down. I'm like you guys, I wouldn't wish what's all wrong with me on worst enemies.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 11 Apr 2013, 18:04

Oh gosh Davie, that's awful :( Very much a similar but different manifestation of what Mike and I have so I know exactly what you're up against... I reaklly hope the move goes really smoothly and when all is done you can get some good relaxation in.

daviemck2006 wrote:. I too now have to plan days in advance, just now is difficult, but hey ha, have to keep going.


Absolutely right. If we didn't take a keep going and battling on attitude then we'd just sit in a corner and well, just fade to nothing and that would be infinitely worse than the condition itself.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by daviemck2006 » 11 Apr 2013, 18:10

CitroJim wrote:Absolutely right. If we didn't take a keep going and battling on attitude then we'd just sit in a corner and well, just fade to nothing and that would be infinitely worse than the condition itself.


Been there and done that one and thats how I'm trying very hard to stay positive through all the crap coming my way just now. Probably like you guys I havs spells of relative normality, and then bang it goes bad for a while. Getting better just now so as they say onwards and upwards. As I said some where else if you are in hell, don't stop and look about, keep running.
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Post by addo » 11 Apr 2013, 23:56

A lot of people don't credit just how badly, messed up headspace can affect the body. Then the two start feeding off one another, and it gets worse.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 12 Apr 2013, 05:19

That Adam, is very true...
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 14 Apr 2013, 18:36

Apart from washing the Activa, which was very mossy green after being in hibernation for the winter, I did little to my own cars this weekend. I planned to do the rear ram on the Activa but I really wasn't up to it but did observe now the weather has perked up a bit the leak is now just an ever decreasing weep so the urgency has gone again...

The lacquer peel is getting worse though and it looked after washing like the poor car had a bad case of dandruff :lol:

Had visits from two Xantia owners this morning, apart from it being social visits, one to change his V6 gearbox oil and another to check his spheres on my tester... I did none of the work, just provided facilities, entertainment and refreshments...

The V6 owner is in fact an XM Owner too, Mike (Xantia_V6), who is the owner of a LHD manual ES9 V6 he keeps in France. We ended up having a good natter about his acquisition and comparing the differences between a French and UK market one. There appears to be many subtle differences like no deadlocking, no CD Changer and possibly no alarm amongst other things...

The other Xantia owner was our very own Sid_The_Squid with his rather lovely Dante Red HDi. Really good to see you again Sid :-D

Later I went over to the Team WFA HQ to see how the RX-8 work is coming along. I sat on a ride-on mower there, took it for a spin and ended up mowing quite a sizeable lawn. Ride-on mowers are seriously good fun and I very much enjoyed it :D

And after driving one across grass for an hour or so it makes the XM feel so comfy...

The choice of car to go to WFA HQ was a straight contest between the XM and the Activa; the XM won on this occasion :)
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Sid_the_Squid » 14 Apr 2013, 19:57

It was good to see you to Jim, that XM of yours is absolutely lovely, what a beautiful ride, makes my Xantia feel almost steel sprung in comparison.
Thanks for your help today, I reckon I'll try the replacement corner spheres as you suggested, once finances allow :)
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by vince » 20 Apr 2013, 06:07

Sid is back in town =D>

Still jealous Jim :P ....so many Citroens to choose from...it must be great that. I saw a great dyane "cote d'azur" yesterday following me in the nissan on the way back from a customer visit.....i pulled over and let it past then followed it for a while until it went in a different direction. It was very clean and no signs of rust anywhere on it. Seriously cool car 8-)

Ive said it before and ill say it again....its a pity i dont live further down south....it would be nice to pop round every now and again and have a mess around with the cars. Im on my own round here :cry:

Im going to re join the CCC next month if i can and try to find other Citroen enthusiasts round here....there are probably loads just round the corner :lol:
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 21 Apr 2013, 07:56

You could always move Vince :wink: But yes, I know what you mean... Hopefully, rejoining the CCC will bring forth some good results.

Yesterday, Team WFA descended upon my garden and went through it like a tornado. The old rotten pergola has gone, along with all the rubbish and much rampant vegetation.

The garden looks so much better and so much more spacious now. Excellent :-D I cannot thank the members of team WFA enough for their hard work 8-) All I need now is some planting advice.

Toward the end of the day, after one tip run, there was still a massive pile of rubbish to go, including a big water butt amongst other things....

I bet Chris570 a free reseal of his V6 XM camboxes he could not load all the remaining rubbish into the back of his Xantia Estate and take it to the tip all in one go. Such is his keenness not to do his camboxes himself he managed it and how he did I still can't work out even though technically he lost the bet as he neglected to take one broken watering can...

I do feel a bit responsible for his camboxes as I let him have a tube of the special sealant to do the job and I didn't realise until I had cause to use the stuff for something else - a leaking toilet cistern - that it has a best before date and goes off. In the case of the tube I let him have the best before date was way off :roll: :oops: Sorry Chris :oops:

Yes, the bloody toilet cistern sprang a leak on Thursday evening/night and soaked the bathroom carpet and floorboards something terribly. Just what I really didn't need after a long, hard and very difficult week that had left me feeling quite ill. Emergency plumbers around there are a cruel joke - in fact any plumbers at all are - so I had no option but to visit B and Q, get every bit I thought I needed and sort it. Pulling up in B and Q car park in the XM I was approached by a gentlemen who stated he saw me come in and was amazed to see an XM, declaring he hadn't seen one for years and years and years. He was delighted to see it and we enjoyed a long chat about them. He, it transpired, was long retired from the motor trade.

Back home with all the innards for a cistern I set to work and just replaced the lot wholesale, ballvalve, syphon and all seals. It was then I realised I needed some sealant, cracked open a tube of V6 cambox sealant - if it's good enough for an ES9 then I'm sure it's good enough for a bog - and discovered just how far past it's best before date it was...

Touch-wood it's done the job on the cistern and it remains mercifully leak-free :) Good, because I really can do without aggro like that :twisted:
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Hell Razor5543 » 21 Apr 2013, 08:17

One plant you might want are nasturtiums. They look good, they grow almost anywhere, and they are edible. They can hide many gardening sins (well, during the summer months, anyway). OK, the annuals will die off, but you will get a large number of seeds to use the following year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropaeolum

http://www.herbalgardens.com/archives/a ... tiums.html
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 21 Apr 2013, 09:14

Nasturtiums are a great idea James. As I recall they grow like weeds and are a tough as old boots. Edible though? never knew that? How?

Speaking of edible, any other edible stuff that's easy, grows like a weed and is tough and tolerant will be entertained. I can't be doing with anything fussy or difficult or something that needs lots of attention. I've already got those - they're called Citroens...

Speaking of edible, I broke off a nice stick of rhubarb yesterday and thought it rude not to pull another couple of sticks and knock up a quick rhubarb crumble. First fresh rhubarb of the year - delicious 8-)

That's one plant that's definitely not going anywhere :wink: I love rhubarb.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by myglaren » 21 Apr 2013, 10:02

The Nasturtium flowers are edible Jim. I find that Nasturtiums attract a lot of cabbage white butterflies and the leaves get covered in caterpillars.

A nice alternative to Nasties is the Morning Glory (shurrup Malc).

Sowed some a couple of weeks ago but they aren't doing well.



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Post by addo » 21 Apr 2013, 10:03

Not a big fan of nasturtiums, but agree they have their place. Aren't the seeds what gets called capers? I like making crumbles, but prefer apple or apricot filling.

You can put slight obnoxious things in terracotta or concrete pots double lined with weedmat and standing on concrete slabs. Examples - bamboo, nettles, blackberry, buxus japonica. Seaside daisies might be worth a try, as they seem quite durable; also for colder climates you can probably chop a crepe myrtle into a small bush. Is it too cold for herbs in the paving cracks and edges (parsley, fennel and oregano do well here in this regard; very Continental)?
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