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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by myglaren » 30 Dec 2012, 11:48

Snakebite is unlikely this time of year Adam, they will all be hibernating.
Poison of some description is far more probable.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 30 Dec 2012, 14:49

myglaren wrote:Snakebite is unlikely this time of year Adam, they will all be hibernating.


Well, now you cone to speak of it Adam, I wonder if the nearby river in full flood at the time drew something like an adder out of hibernation - certainly the land nearby is good adder country and I guess knowing how fond of chasing wildlife the cat was that if he came upon an adder, niggled and soggy, that he'd have had a go at it...

A poisoned mouse or rat is more likely and again one that was washed out by the floods is a distinct possibility...

The vet told me the symptoms of anti-freeze poisoning so I can rule that out... Poison by ethylene glycol is very nasty it appears...
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Citroenmad » 30 Dec 2012, 22:56

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Citroenmad wrote:Terrible news about your cat Jim, I bet your other one is seeming a bit lost now?


She's not even seemed to notice :roll: cats are strange creatures; odd as he was her kitten 9 years ago...

Yes, it was a shock and put a dampener on Christmas really. One moment a very fit, healthy cat and next...

Not sure what poisoned him but cats are very sensitive to toxins so it could have been anything.


Strange animals cats, very independant.

Ours didnt notice when her brother went, if anything she seemed more settled.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 30 Dec 2012, 23:17

I love cats. They seem to love me too. I don't believe that they are actually that independent - they give the impression that they are, but we have to face facts - something with a head that small, can't be *that* intelligent - there's simply not the room for the brain power :-) I think their "intelligence" is just nature's programming. They all have their little ways, but I find them all remarkably similar to deal with. The "experts" say that domestic cats never reach mental adulthood - they get stuck in an adolescent frame of mind because we humans look after them and they never have to develop. This is one reason why most domestic cats will stay playful all their lives. I did some work for the Cats Protection League years ago when I lived in Marlow, catching strays. I haven't yet met a cat that I couldn't get to come to me - they wouldn't go near some other folk though. Very odd. Maybe I smell of mice or something! I never used the net we had for catching them. I am the cat whisperer!

In fact, Jim's post has reminded me, so I've volunteered to help the CPL again.. I have way too much spare time on my hands with my weird shift patterns.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Xaccers » 30 Dec 2012, 23:56

Sounds like a brilliant idea Mike

Talking of mice, why isn't there mouse flavoured cat food?
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 31 Dec 2012, 00:04

Xac wrote:Sounds like a brilliant idea Mike

Talking of mice, why isn't there mouse flavoured cat food?


Cat food doesn't taste of anything. It's the weirdest thing. It manages to stink like hell, and taste of absolutely nothing.

One wonders how bad the head of a mouse must taste, if the cat eats the rest of it. One of mine has a habit of eating everything but the face. It even eats the rest of the head, then you find a tiny face, staring blankly at you. Very spooky :shock:

Sorry Jim. There goes that thread drift again..
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 31 Dec 2012, 09:43

Rattiva_Mike wrote:Sorry Jim. There goes that thread drift again..


That's no worries Mike. It's the FCF after all :lol:

Actually a very interesting drift :) How do you know cat food tastes of nothing? personal experience? I know it stinks and sometimes it makes me want to retch when feeding mine.

Cats are fascinating creatures. I'm no real lover of them but I've always had a cat and life just wouldn't be right without one in the house. My old girl is a real character. She lives for food, warmth and winding me up - the latter she does very effectively and knows limits and exactly which buttons to push to provoke me into the action she desires..

Which lends well to the theory that cats (and in fact all domesticated animals) are still kittens at heart. cats especially have a lot of what we'd expect from a baby!

As for feline intelligence. No, not as we understand intelligence and in fact I think sometimes cats are rather stupid and thick with little capacity to learn. Something I also think about a vast majority of dogs although some dogs appear to be remarkably intelligent in some ways.

Good on the CPL work Mike :-D As I say, I'm not by any means a dyed in the wool cat lover but having said that I'd never tolerate a moment of cruelty or mistreatment. there's far too much of it about and anything you can do to reduce a bit of feline suffering is good by me :-D
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by citronut » 31 Dec 2012, 11:13

i beleve all animals are more intelligent the so called human beings,

99% of the time they only take what they need,

we judge intelligences by the way we think,

my African grey knows exactly what he wants and how to get it,

and most of what he say's is in context,

he hasn't learned how to unlock the padlock on his cage as yet though
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Post by KP » 31 Dec 2012, 12:09

sorry about your fur related news Jim :(
My family cat used to be 7months older than me and died when he was 19yrs old as his body just slowly shut down :( When he was younger he could make a 7foot brick wall with a good 1'+ long rat in his mouth and still land fine and go back for more! We used to find them lined up at the back door like a display for us in the morning and he hardly ever touched them! it was like a sport for him, once it was dead he wasn't interested. Semi-live birds in the house used to be fun as well but he was a well built cat being half farm cat half Persian he often scared Alsations and bulldogs away :) I remember a neighbour (one of those types...) had got a pitbull i think it was. Our cat was sat in the middle of the street a quiet cul de sac, and the neighbour brings his dog out for a walk going to go right past him. Dog is going absolutely mental as our cat just sits there as if to taunt him... The dog starts pulling the young guy towards the our cat. When they get within about a metre our cat stands up, furrs up and hiss'es loudest i ever heard him do at this dog. Dog quickly runs to the otherside of its owner trying as much as it can to drag him off down the street ASAP! I piddled my pants for ages at that as our cat just sat back down absorbing the world going by...........
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 31 Dec 2012, 12:56

Now that was some cat you had there Will :-D

That's one thing I do admire about cats; how they never let others get the better of them and show extreme restraint... It's like they have a well-developed air of superiority and know it.

I like dogs greatly but have never owned one nor had anything much to do with them but I'd have thought dogs would have learned to stop trying it on with cats long ago. They never win and just end up looking silly. Older dogs do seem to get the message sometimes.

My old cat is 13 now and going very strongly indeed. In our family is a cat that's a few months older than our youngest daughter and still going well. They can live to a right old age and I guess that must be down to how much rest they get and their laid-back (out?) attitude to life... We can lean a lot from cats :)
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 01 Jan 2013, 17:50

CitroJim wrote:
Rattiva_Mike wrote:Sorry Jim. There goes that thread drift again..


That's no worries Mike. It's the FCF after all :lol:

Actually a very interesting drift :) How do you know cat food tastes of nothing? personal experience? I know it stinks and sometimes it makes me want to retch when feeding mine.

Cats are fascinating creatures. I'm no real lover of them but I've always had a cat and life just wouldn't be right without one in the house. My old girl is a real character. She lives for food, warmth and winding me up - the latter she does very effectively and knows limits and exactly which buttons to push to provoke me into the action she desires..

Which lends well to the theory that cats (and in fact all domesticated animals) are still kittens at heart. cats especially have a lot of what we'd expect from a baby!

As for feline intelligence. No, not as we understand intelligence and in fact I think sometimes cats are rather stupid and thick with little capacity to learn. Something I also think about a vast majority of dogs although some dogs appear to be remarkably intelligent in some ways.


Cats have a little capacity to learn - not a huge amount in my experience. For example. Sam is 3. He used to be scared of the vacuum cleaner and hairdryer. Now he happily pushes the vac around, and lets us dry his hair with the dryer. One of our cats is 5. Despite Adriana using the hairdryer and vacuum most days, she is still terrified of both of them, even though they've never threatened her at all. She simply hasn't learnt. I think cats are programmed automatons that are very adaptable, but not hugely intelligent. I've had 11 cats of my own over the years, and there's been more in the family. They're all much of a muchness, bar some "personal" traits. We had a large tabby that used to delight in chasing away an Alsatian that lived up the road. The first time it happened, the big dog had cornered our new kitten outside my mum's garage. Bones (so called as he was a bony stray when we got him) came storming out of the house, fur up, yowling, spitting, lashed a big gouge out the stunned dog's face, then as it turned and ran, chased it, making deathly noises, for about 100yds up the road. Great cat. Succumbed to poisoning too we think sadly, I just found him dead in the kitchen one morning, he'd be about 5.

Cat food - yes, it used to be one of my party tricks when I was bored and people needed a shock to liven them up. Walking in, eating cat food out of a can with a fork really freaks people out. It stinks, but it's really, really bland. The biscuits are even worse, some of them smell quite nice, like crisps do, but they are also completely bland. I guess cats must get "taste" with their noses..

It is said that cats long ago learnt to mimic the tones of a crying baby when they were first domesticated. This is why humans tend to do stuff for them. It's a natural subconscious response to a miaow of a cat. If you hear a wild-cat miaow, it sounds nothing like a domestic cat.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by DickieG » 01 Jan 2013, 18:03

Rattiva_Mike wrote:Cat food - yes, it used to be one of my party tricks

Reminds me of a BBQ I went to a few years ago where a certain wag decided to swap standard party nibbles in bowls for dried cat food, it took about half an hour with the bowls almost empty before someone realised what they were snacking on :lol:
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 01 Jan 2013, 18:32

DickieG wrote:
Rattiva_Mike wrote:Cat food - yes, it used to be one of my party tricks

Reminds me of a BBQ I went to a few years ago where a certain wag decided to swap standard party nibbles in bowls for dried cat food, it took about half an hour with the bowls almost empty before someone realised what they were snacking on :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: My goodness Richard, that's funny... You certainly go to some interesting parties!!!
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Northern_Mike » 01 Jan 2013, 19:29

CitroJim wrote:
DickieG wrote:
Rattiva_Mike wrote:Cat food - yes, it used to be one of my party tricks

Reminds me of a BBQ I went to a few years ago where a certain wag decided to swap standard party nibbles in bowls for dried cat food, it took about half an hour with the bowls almost empty before someone realised what they were snacking on :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: My goodness Richard, that's funny... You certainly go to some interesting parties!!!


My next party might be more interesting now too :)
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