Citrojim's Pixo, Saxo and Cycling Tales

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 15 Oct 2012, 14:36

My XM passed the MOT catless for years Will but this is new regulations introduced this year and quietly slipped in. I have a cat here so no problem there, it's just the fitting of the damm thing...

I'm not quite sure what VOSA are trying to achieve really Andy. If you're determined enough you can hide a duff ABS problem even now and a K light too. It's all got very silly and somewhat beyond sensible. No doubt leading up to a two-yearly MOT and maybe no MOT at all for cars over twenty years old. That'll soon be my XM :-D

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Chris570 » 15 Oct 2012, 14:44

CitroJim wrote:My XM passed the MOT catless for years Will but this is new regulations introduced this year and quietly slipped in. I have a cat here so no problem there, it's just the fitting of the damm thing...

I'm not quite sure what VOSA are trying to achieve really Andy. If you're determined enough you can hide a duff ABS problem even now and a K light too. It's all got very silly and somewhat beyond sensible. No doubt leading up to a two-yearly MOT and maybe no MOT at all for cars over twenty years old. That'll soon be my XM :-D
you are joking, it'll end up as a bi-weekly mot ;)

you know i'll fit your cat soon :P

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by KP » 15 Oct 2012, 14:51

Sorry i meant bash the guts out and leave as is. unless they unhitch it they wont know and emmissons on lpg should be far low enough to pass when setup right :)

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 15 Oct 2012, 14:54

Chris570 wrote: you are joking, it'll end up as a bi-weekly mot ;)
No, if we fully embrace EU plans it'll be every two years and cars over twenty years old will be exempt completely. Already cars made before 1960 are exempt, or about to be from November I think it is. Anyone got a 1959 XM for sale? :) The twenty year rule will be rolling...

The classic press has been 'full of it' for months - the arguments for and against. Apparently, under the scheme, exempt cars can still be taken for an MOT - for 'insurance purposes' - and one major classic insurer is already speaking about them sponsoring and requiring a kind of private or independent 'MOT' before they'll insure an otherwise exempt car. Interesting stuff with lots of ramifications and none to anyone’s benefit except the insurance companies I expect.
Chris570 wrote:you know i'll fit your cat soon :P
I know Chris and thanks :-D The oxygen sensor should be here tomorrow :wink:

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Chris570 » 15 Oct 2012, 15:13

I know about the EU rule but it might be "lost in translation" and changed to bi-weekly and the amount changed so the govt gets a nice slice

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by KP » 15 Oct 2012, 15:19

I dont think any classic driver would really mind producing their car every 2 years for an MOT to guarantee insurance cover for the small outlay and the fact that so little could be tested on some anyway :)
Worth £25 in my books as it would roll in the front door and out the back door without even stopping i suspect in most cases as no need to gas tests or the like ;)

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Xaccers » 15 Oct 2012, 16:41

Can't you just take one of your moggies along for the test? :)

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 15 Oct 2012, 17:49

Xac wrote:Can't you just take one of your moggies along for the test? :)
Yes, sit one of them on the passenger’s seat and say to the MOT man. "It does have a cat installed..."

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by myglaren » 15 Oct 2012, 17:57

I don't think that "Installed in the passenger seat" is quite what they are looking for, even if it is a Siamese.

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 15 Oct 2012, 18:03

Yes, but technically it does have a cat and therefore the regulations are satisfied.

Nothing in the rules state exactly what a cat is so one of the furry variety with a diary produce fetish should be fine :)

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by citronut » 15 Oct 2012, 19:58

CitroJim wrote: The twenty year rule will be rolling...
what like tax exemption :roll: :wink:

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Xaccers » 15 Oct 2012, 20:34

myglaren wrote:I don't think that "Installed in the passenger seat" is quite what they are looking for, even if it is a Siamese.
I suppose cable tying it to the exhaust pipe would be out of the question...

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by bxzx16v » 16 Oct 2012, 07:35

Fit an old cat Jim with the core removed :wink:

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by andmcit » 16 Oct 2012, 09:47

My '93 TCT Xm wouldn't pass the MOT emissions test with the tired original cat so running clean
enough without seems optimistic? Yes it could well have been the Lambda that was changed at
the same time but the fuel and ignition are set up to have the damned things although I realise
there's some leeway allowing for the ECU's to adjust mixture etc.

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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by Chris570 » 16 Oct 2012, 10:57

the point about it is more that the LPG test is different to the petrol one :)