Citrojim's Skoda, Saxo, 207 and Bike Tales

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Post by addo » 16 Sep 2012, 09:53

It's got a 30-pin socket.

I can't get Peugeot Planet to talk; think it's possibly the rubbish pirated brown plug. I've blagged a donor genuine plug from the undercarpet harness of a Xantia wreck, but need five more of the triple connector "wafers" with tails of wire, to fill it up.

After going out during the startup self-diagnostics, the dash light comes on with a firm press of the brakes, and stays on. All sensors read fine - one had been snipped maliciously in a past life, but I retrieved the ends and it's fixed.

At least one of the rear calipers is nearly seized.
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Post by CitroJim » 18 Sep 2012, 11:46

addo wrote:At least one of the rear calipers is nearly seized.


That might have a bearing on it Adam, if the ECU detects any sort of speed inconsistency of all four wheels under heavy braking perhaps...

Crap in the reluctor rings?

Had a nice new set of front tyres fitted to the V6 yesterday and she feels much better. On the perceived performance issue I've been told to take her out for a thoroughly good thrash; something I've never done with the V6. I must and when I have I'll report back :)

The Activa is booked in for her MOT on Thursday afternoon. Today, as it is a nice bright day here, I went out and did a full pre-MOT. Nothing amiss was found with the car but plenty amiss was found with me :evil: Despite getting up and feeling quite chirpy, just doing the pre-MOT, which involved little more strenuous than having the front wheels off, has left me completely exhausted and feeling rough :( Not good.

Bang goes any plans to do anything on the XM today but there's two bits of good news on that front: Andmcit has very kindly supplied me with a new upper speedo cable and instructions to fit - thanks Andrew :-D - and my repair to the duff coil on the spare Bendix ABS block seems to have been successful. It just remains to try it out now... Full details of that particular saga can be found over on Club-XM..

I've just got to accumulate enough energy now to get the XM nosecone off :roll: Maybe tomorrow...
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Post by Citroenmad » 18 Sep 2012, 20:22

Ive never tried BF Goodrich tyres, they are a brand of Michelin aren't they?

Enjoy your thrash in your V6 Jim :-D Ive decided my Activa needs to be taxed, its only been on SORN two weeks and I miss it :lol: 8-)

Also good luck with the MOT, though im sure it will pass with flying colours.

Excellent news on the speedo cable, its taken about two years to find one :lol: :roll:

Im more than happy to come down for a day and help you with the fitting of the cable and any other XM things you need doing. After all, I should have done that myself when i had it! I also need to machine polish that passenger side too 8-)
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Post by CitroJim » 18 Sep 2012, 21:19

Thanks Chris, that's very kind :-D

Citroenmad wrote:Ive never tried BF Goodrich tyres, they are a brand of Michelin aren't they?


Yes, a brand of Michelin and in fact when you look at the latest generation of G-Grips the tread pattern is almost identical to the latest generation of Michelin Energys... I like them more each time I drive on them..

I know what you mean about the Activa. They're addictive and hard to give up :P
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Post by Citroenmad » 18 Sep 2012, 21:40

CitroJim wrote:Thanks Chris, that's very kind :-D

Citroenmad wrote:Ive never tried BF Goodrich tyres, they are a brand of Michelin aren't they?


Yes, a brand of Michelin and in fact when you look at the latest generation of G-Grips the tread pattern is almost identical to the latest generation of Michelin Energys... I like them more each time I drive on them..

I know what you mean about the Activa. They're addictive and hard to give up :P


Excellent, I'll make arrangements with you to do that :-D

Might well give some BF Goodrich's a go at some point in that case. No doubt cheaper than Michelins for my C5!

Very addictive, not only that but even now it impresses me more on each drive. Few cars can claim to do that.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 19 Sep 2012, 15:08

Citroenmad wrote: Few cars can claim to do that.


I think an XM may well do that Chris :)

Here's a good starter for ten, as Bamber might say...

What car requires half the front end dismantled to change an accumulator sphere?

An XM of course :twisted:

I bit the bullet this morning after recovering from my Activa Pre-MOT yesterday and got the nosecone off the XM so that I could pull the rads sufficiently far forward to reach the accumulator sphere..

A couple of issues emerged. The O/S wheelarch bumper mount has dissolved to nothing but all bits rescued and there's enough sound metal left to re-fabricate it. The N/S is perfect :roll:

The N/S bumper skirt captive nut tore out of the nosecone but again, a simple patch will sort that - no problem.

The steel bumper insert is a bit crusty but a coat of rust killer and a few coats of paint will sort that...

With the nose off and the rads pulled as far forward as possible, it was just possible to get a good strap around the accumulator and crack it off and ease it out.

Good job I did that job, the accumulator was ruptured and spilt a lovely amount of LHM. Not sure how it was sealing either as the old seal was badly crimped.

With the best I could muster, a centre sphere at around 45 bars has been used as a new accumulator and now the hydraulics are a lot happier so it was worth doing the job :-D

I'm still curious to know if the FDV is entirely happy. It gently hisses continually unless steering assistance is needed. That's good as the hiss is the result of the steering pressure regulator operating and excess LHM being returned to the reservoir. The only thing I note is that assistance is available as soon as the engine is started and I'm not sure that's absolutely right - my old Sinker did not give steering assistance until the accumulator was fully charged and normal height reached...

That's enough for today, next jobs are to repair the bumper mounting and swap the transmission fluid...

Bizarrely, the ABS light has gone out :? :roll:

XMs - don't you just love 'em...
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Post by Citroenmad » 19 Sep 2012, 20:48

Excellent progress Jim, the Prestige is putting up quite a list of jobs :shock: :(

I had wonderd if the accumulator sphere was any good and it was on my list to check and replace should I have had the car any longer. Also the centre front and rear spheres, I dont think your experiencing the full comforts of an XM yet. In the time we have known that car, about 8-9 years, it has only had corner spheres fitted by us. That was about 7 years ago and when I got the car they were shot, so I replaced those as you know.

Our Xm estate, also a sinker, does not have power assistance to the steering until the suspension is on the rise ...

CitroJim wrote:XMs - don't you just love 'em...


I do actually 8-) :lol:

While I do like the look, drive and feel of a Xantia, they really are not XMs. I always found myself looking back at the XM when I left it in a carpark, I don't so much with the Xantias. XMs are just that bit more special, in look, feel and drive.
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Re: Citrojim's Xantia and XM Tales

Post by CitroJim » 19 Sep 2012, 21:12

Citroenmad wrote:the Prestige is putting up quite a list of jobs :shock: :(


Chris, you know me. If I had the most perfect car in the world I'd still find a long list of jobs to do on it :lol: :lol:

Well, it rides a lot nicer than the Xantia over what passes for some roads around here and there's a very pronounced difference between hard and soft mode so the centre spheres cannot be too bad at all...

The thing I like about the Prestige is there's enough gentle jobs to do on it to keep me usefully occupied and enthused; nothing big or difficult but just the job to provide me a bit of therapy :-D Just what I need for the next few weeks :wink:
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Post by Citroenmad » 19 Sep 2012, 22:33

Im very pleased your still happy with the car, it has quite a few smaller jobs needed so it should keep you entertained :lol:

You will know what I mean when you do check the centres, they are far from past it but they could be better. I do like having Citroens which ride as they should, if not better! 8-) This V6 will be getting it spheres checked before long, I think the rear corners are a little low by the feel in sports, but the rest should regas as it rides quite well as is. I just need to get onto the company who do the regassing gear and get some more charging nipples ordered up.

I just wish C5 spheres were as easy to recharge, our regassing gear is almost redundant, even with an Activa in the fleet as I have done them already :lol:
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Post by CitroJim » 22 Sep 2012, 15:52

After a day of being absolutely unable to do anything at all on Friday I woke up feeling much perkier today and set-to on the XM with much assistance. I was keen to get the nose and bumper back on before the bad weather sets in...

The first task was to repair the bumper mount on the offside, the nearside being fine...

This was the extent of the damage:

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We, as it's beyond me now to do, made a repair piece with some aluminium sheet and some pop rivets. That was used with a good coating of cavity wax to make a repair plate..

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Not a good picture as it's been a lovely day and the sun got in the camera...

It's strong and does the job a treat...

After another small repair on one of the bumper lower mounts We reassembled and was delighted to see the new bracket is doing the job a treat...

After a test drive the car is far happier and waftier with much better brakes for having a new accumulator :-D

I see I have a similar problem on one side of the rear bumper but it's the opposite problem; the plate on the bumper itself holding the captive nut has rusted badly. The underlying body being fine. Another job to add to the list...

That's it for today. Maybe already done too much and I'll suffer tomorrow perhaps...

The Activa goes on for her MOT first thing Monday Morning. I was going to take her Thursday but when i looked at the old MOT I saw I was too early :roll:
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Post by CitroJim » 24 Sep 2012, 18:55

I'm pleased to report the Activa flew her MOT this morning and emerged with a clean sheet :-D

I had a very interesting chat with the tester about and XM and the fact it's catless but running on LPG.

New rules state the car must have a cat fitted even if it runs on gas predominantly and the new MOT also includes new checks on the LPG installation. A special dye is used to detect leaks and if any are found, instant fail. Previously the gas system was not subject to any MOT checks at all.

This now leaves me in a serious quandary; my health is just not up to installing a cat and oxygen sensor at the moment even though I have one in stock. The MOT is due in November. That and the ongoing ABS issue (which requires a valve block swap) may mean the car will be laid-up SORN until my health improves to the extent I might be able to do the work. It could be some time...
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Post by Deanxm » 24 Sep 2012, 19:28

Oh no Jim, surely there is another way, if i was closer i would come and do the job for you but given the distance and ferry implications it would be a bit tricky at the moment..............

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Post by Chris570 » 24 Sep 2012, 21:28

Deanxm wrote:Oh no Jim, surely there is another way, if i was closer i would come and do the job for you but given the distance and ferry implications it would be a bit tricky at the moment..............

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Fear not, Jim already has the chief engineer from the Citroen Service Centre of Great Barford booked :)
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Post by addo » 25 Sep 2012, 00:10

Chris570 wrote:Fear not, Jim already has the chief engineer from the Citroen Service Centre of Great Barford booked :)

That sounds like something which should be narrated by Ringo Starr...
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Post by CitroJim » 25 Sep 2012, 07:40

addo wrote:
Chris570 wrote:Fear not, Jim already has the chief engineer from the Citroen Service Centre of Great Barford booked :)

That sounds like something which should be narrated by Ringo Starr...


I'm quite sure it'll turn out to be an epic tale quite worthy of the narration skills of the gentleman in question. It's an XM after all and every job is an adventure on those it seems :roll:
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