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Post by citroenxm » 10 May 2011, 21:14

1.4 box will be a ma family box.. Completely different kettle compared to a be3 box...

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Post by CitroJim » 10 May 2011, 21:26

citroenxm wrote:1.4 box will be a ma family box.. Completely different kettle compared to a be3 box...

Paul


The only common component between the two so far as I can tell is the drive shaft oil seals :o
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Post by andmcit » 10 May 2011, 21:29

:lol:

Wasn't necessarily hoping to cadge a gearbox, more any further
thoughts about the innards for my BiL's one!
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Post by CitroJim » 10 May 2011, 21:35

andmcit wrote: any further thoughts about the innards for my BiL's one!


Nothing more that I put in the original thread Andrew. They're not hard to strip, certainly easier than a BE3, and not hard to repair either.

Get two and make one good one from the two.. I'll almost bet you'll find a worn baulk ring or a broken detent spring in the 1/2 synchro hub.
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Post by andmcit » 10 May 2011, 21:47

I believe the jury is still out with my BiL on what he intends doing.

Best repair quote is around £300 + VAT parts inc and i'm not 100% sure
whether he'll try it for an imminent MOT first to see if he feels the car is
worth going that way as he's not enthused by a SH box were one found
for a tidy price. I'll update that linked thread under "Peugeot" when
there's progress.!!
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Post by CitroJim » 16 May 2011, 20:44

Happy to report the 306 is going strong on its new gearbox and it passed it's MOT without issuer after giving the handbrake an adjust and replacing a blown bulb :D

I stripped the old gearbox right down to the last component and found it all fine except every bearing in it is rather worn. Apart from that it's good and an excellent source of spares. It's been reassembled loosely and has joined the stash of potentially useful stuff...

After bleeding it, the Rover 75 clutch continues to function as it should and on Sunday we investigated why it was so smokey. No joke, it looked like it was running on coal - the smokescreen on accelleration was something to be proud of :lol: On a diesel, there are only two causes of such smoke; lack of air or too much fuel. The Rover 75 engine is a Beemer common rail with a MAF sensor. Inspecting the intercooler connections gave a clue - it looked like the Torrey Canyon had run aground on the intercooler - it was literally swimming in thick black oil. For sure that side of the car is never going to rust out :lol:

After a very mucky disassembly, aided very gratefully by Chris570, we found the problem. The intercooler has an elbow on the top and this elbow is in two halves, joined by a giant version of a Xantia heater matrix connector. When we seaparated it, only 30% of the O ring was present. The intercooler therefore had a massive boost leak.

We didn't have a suitable O ring but an XU thermostat seal ring proved the point until it let go on full boost. Later the owner found a more suitable combination of O rings and all is now good and the smokescreen has disappeared. The owner says it goes rather better now as well...

Personally, I rater rate the 75. One of my neighbours mistook it for a Jag and thought I'd seen sense/gone up in the world and abandoned my Citroens :roll: :lol:

So why would a boost leak cause so much smoke. The MAF sensor ahead of the turbo measures the mass of air being sucked in and makes an assumption all this air would get to the engine. The ECU will therefore inject a commesurate amount of fuel. As most air is leaking away, there is too much fuel and hence the smoke...

Yesterday I had a good look at a Citroen C4 1.6 VTR (petrol) that had been acquired for a mere pittance. It was in overall very good nick and apart from needing a good service was an absolute steal for well under three grand for a 46,000 mile 06 plater. I was rather impressed with it :D

I may be getting more acquainted with it soon as it badly needs new front discs.

My fleet are all good. Routine checks on all brought nothing amiss. Old V6 goes in for her MOT next Monday. In the meantine New V6 will be very busy as she'll be taking me to Somerset and back on Friday and then to Wetherby and back over the weekend for the CCC Northern Rally.

I'm looking forward to that :D
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Post by Xaccers » 16 May 2011, 20:52

It's even more fun to mistake someone's Jag for a Rover 75 ;)

About that project you mentioned Jim, she runs, needs a bit more air in the osf wheel which I can probably sort tomorrow, then it's just down to getting her over to you.
Her battery is so flat it would go well with maple syrup, but I bought a £30 booster pack/compressor from Aldi which turned out to be quite impressive in starting her.
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Post by CitroJim » 16 May 2011, 21:04

Excellent :D I'm all ready for her Xac...
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Post by robert_e_smart » 16 May 2011, 22:02

Yesterday I had a good look at a Citroën C4 1.6 VTR (petrol) that had been acquired for a mere pittance. It was in overall very good nick and apart from needing a good service was an absolute steal for well under three grand for a 46,000 mile 06 plater. I was rather impressed with it


These C4s are very good Jim. My sister has one the same as that, and it has been excellent since it has been here.

They're nice an easy to work on too, loads of room in the engine bay, all designed for quick and easy work.
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Post by KP » 17 May 2011, 09:15

Not sure i would say they are great.

My brother has just px'd one against a Kia Soul as his clutch was just letting go at 40k and just over 3 years old....
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Post by CitroJim » 23 May 2011, 14:22

Pleased to report Old V6 has just flown through her MOT despite me biting my fingernails into oblivion :D :D :D :D :D :D

Only advisory was the front tyres being 75% worn....

Now there's a thing... V6s are quite hot on front tyres. They've lasted barely 12,000 miles :twisted:
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Post by citroenxm » 23 May 2011, 14:32

I've heard a lot about hydractive having an appitite for threshold... however. My hdi exclusive 110 has so been the opposite... I've so far got 20k out of 4 tyres... hard/soft mode does work too....

Paul

Bloody predictive text... TYRES not threshold ......

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Post by CitroJim » 23 May 2011, 14:42

citroenxm wrote:I've heard a lot about hydractive having an appitite for threshold...


Indeed, mine gets through thresholds like there's no tomorrow Paul.
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55 C5 1.6 HDi VTR
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51 C5 LX HDi 2.0 auto
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Post by citroenxm » 23 May 2011, 14:54

Lol.. thanks Jim... an edit added... :? :shock:

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Post by CitroJim » 23 May 2011, 18:15

citroenxm wrote:Lol.. thanks Jim... an edit added... :? :shock:


Ahh! Thanks for that Paul :D :lol: 20K on an HDi is not bad at all. Ive just realised that my tyre consumption is nearly in Xac territory :lol: :lol: :lol:
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