AX fitting airco system

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AX fitting airco system

Post by jsp » 20 Mar 2016, 18:40

Hi, I have a AX here and want to fit an airco system in.

What is all required?

6457 Y4 kit?

So Far I know:

Airco pump w/ bracket
condensor
pressure regulator
fan switch 3 pin
seperate box for a/c
tubing
radiator interior
and a computer that can run an a/c?
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by jsp » 29 Jul 2016, 09:43

Anyone? Its getting fitted on a carb car
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1987 CX GTI Turbo 2
1987 AX 10E Pino
1994 AX 1.4 5dr TGS GTI
1994 AX 1.0 3dr Escapade
1996 AX 1.1 3dr spot Burgundy
1996 AX 1.1 5dr Verte

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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by Stickyfinger » 29 Jul 2016, 10:13

I cannot think anyone would of done this :)
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by jsp » 29 Jul 2016, 11:37

lol first time.....
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1984 CX GTI Turbo 1
1987 CX GTI Turbo 2
1987 AX 10E Pino
1994 AX 1.4 5dr TGS GTI
1994 AX 1.0 3dr Escapade
1996 AX 1.1 3dr spot Burgundy
1996 AX 1.1 5dr Verte

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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by Stickyfinger » 29 Jul 2016, 12:02

Then post images :)
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by jsp » 30 Jul 2016, 21:26

AFAIK I need these parts:

6444 C0 - Valeo 817084 evap. for R134A

6451 75- temp. sensor

6461 A3 - line splitter

6460 V0 - O-RING

6460 CR - O-RING

6913 Q0 - BOLT

6453 F6 - BOLTS set

95 659 450 - connecting piece

6457 L0 - rubber isolation.

The rest are on the pictures of Cit. service:

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Probably need some Saxo parts to get it working.
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http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=50070

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1984 CX GTI Turbo 1
1987 CX GTI Turbo 2
1987 AX 10E Pino
1994 AX 1.4 5dr TGS GTI
1994 AX 1.0 3dr Escapade
1996 AX 1.1 3dr spot Burgundy
1996 AX 1.1 5dr Verte

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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by white exec » 30 Jul 2016, 21:59

Must say, as a quick response, most folk would not do this, and especially on an AX!
Conversion of non-AC cars to AC is pretty involved stuff, as you are finding out.
Much better to sell car, and acquire one with AC already there.
Repairing what is already there (if indeed necessary) far easier and cheaper than what you are considering.
If anything illustrates the old adage of it being infinitely more expensive to build a car from new parts, this is it.
Anything is possible, but I would just say - don't.
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by jsp » 30 Jul 2016, 22:40

lol most of the reactions say no as always. I try to do it still. Will source a Saxo with AC refit all of that in my AX
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1984 CX GTI Turbo 1
1987 CX GTI Turbo 2
1987 AX 10E Pino
1994 AX 1.4 5dr TGS GTI
1994 AX 1.0 3dr Escapade
1996 AX 1.1 3dr spot Burgundy
1996 AX 1.1 5dr Verte

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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by elma » 31 Jul 2016, 07:20

You may run into a few unexpected challenges. For example a forum member retrofitted ac to a xantia. He showed it to me once and I hadn't realised that xantias have a smaller glovebox than the non ac ones to allow room for some of the parts.
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by jsp » 01 Aug 2016, 02:13

its ok here loads of space.
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1960 ID 19
1984 CX GTI Turbo 1
1987 CX GTI Turbo 2
1987 AX 10E Pino
1994 AX 1.4 5dr TGS GTI
1994 AX 1.0 3dr Escapade
1996 AX 1.1 3dr spot Burgundy
1996 AX 1.1 5dr Verte

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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by Stickyfinger » 01 Aug 2016, 07:50

This will be fun to watch....I have Popcorn.

Go for it :)
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by red_dwarfers » 02 Aug 2016, 15:45

It will be interesting to follow your progress, nothing wrong with a challenge :) As said, fitting AC to a non AC car has been done.

I did toy with the idea of fitting AC to my XM a few years ago but then chickened out.
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by jsp » 03 Aug 2016, 10:53

Should be straight forward need a saxo in bits......
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1984 CX GTI Turbo 1
1987 CX GTI Turbo 2
1987 AX 10E Pino
1994 AX 1.4 5dr TGS GTI
1994 AX 1.0 3dr Escapade
1996 AX 1.1 3dr spot Burgundy
1996 AX 1.1 5dr Verte

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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by ekjdm14 » 04 Aug 2016, 15:17

Will be following this with interest. Was actually considering a retro-fit on our 206 and still may do at some point in future. Did the AX ever come with air con or is it a case of adapting a car that was never built with it? If that's the case there may be issues with the heater box/fitting the evaporator but will be interested to see how it goes all the same.
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Re: AX fitting airco system

Post by spider » 07 Aug 2016, 21:48

ekjdm14 wrote:Will be following this with interest. Was actually considering a retro-fit on our 206 and still may do at some point in future. Did the AX ever come with air con or is it a case of adapting a car that was never built with it? If that's the case there may be issues with the heater box/fitting the evaporator but will be interested to see how it goes all the same.


I've not looked at this (service box etc) however it may be like the (first shape) 106 is, AC is generally only available on LHD models partly due to space concerns. I am aware some later RHD 106's (quicksilver models mainly?) had AC

I don't think any UK spec AX would have offered AC as an option, however other RHD markets ('down under' etc) may of done in some cases if it was sold there.

I'm just basing these thoughts on the AX being like an 'early' 106 really...

I guess most things will um 'fit' if you're willing to make them..
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